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Topic: backward pistons?
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smblk t-bolt Journeyman Posts: 93 From: port alberni BC Canada Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 05-15-2002 05:57 PM
I remembered reading a while ago about installing your piston's backwards in a small block(302 in this case)for more power.I recently found the article in an old magazine and it says the pin is slightly offset and that if you put the notch facing rearward its good for 15-30 horsepower, if you can live with a bit of extra noise.Whats up with this?Is it true, and if so...why havent I read it anywhere else?would it be a time-bomb waiting to happen?also, only good for 289-302 or 351 also?.thanx, ron
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bfxcomet Gearhead Posts: 691 From: Port Alberni, B.C. , Canada Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 05-15-2002 09:06 PM
Hey Ron do you still go for coffee during the day?I'm laidoff so let me know. If you want I'll give you a good deal on a c4 and no not your old c4. Roger------------------
65 comet project 84 T-bird Made in CANADA built for speed #1145
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capri man Gearhead Posts: 7611 From: doerun, ga. Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 05-15-2002 09:28 PM
ron, i have heard the same thing myself. but not from a reliable source. help anyone??------------------ mike r racing is real everything else is just a game. 81 capri-7.56 @88mph 1/8 1.56 60 ft. http://prestage.com/site/site_display.asp?SiteID=141
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MattN Journeyman Posts: 69 From: Mattoon, IL. Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 05-15-2002 09:40 PM
I read the same thing. I think Joe Sherman was the one that built the engine. At least he is the one I remember.
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63fairlane Journeyman Posts: 31 From: Bronson,Mich.,USA Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 05-15-2002 11:17 PM
I just got done building that set-up.Haven't fired it up yet as I'm still working on the engine compartment.Closeing up all the little holes.I did this with a Mac-10 cart engine 30yrs.ago.Good torque increase.It's also known as the poor mans stroker.It gives a better rod angle at TDC to the crank.It also increases the velosity of the piston on the exhaust stroke.=higher exhaust gas velosity.The down side is that you get cold start piston slap.Let ya know how it works if and when it lives.------------------ 63 fairlane
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stang106 Gearhead Posts: 786 From: God's Country!... Port Alberni B.C. Canada Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 05-15-2002 11:45 PM
I just re-read that article and am quite skeptical of the numbers. If its such a huge horsepower gain (30 hp) for no more cash then why is it not mainstream? I am also skeptical of the big solid cam numbers and yet he uses push-in studs and stock rockers? I would like to hear from those who are familiar with dyno numbers on SBF about this? Dave------------------ '70 ragtop Stang "I live my life 16.090 seconds at a time"
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mustangboy Gearhead Posts: 1147 From: Ont, Canada Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 05-16-2002 02:22 AM
Just wanted to clear a few things up.The cam he uses is a hydraulic Isky Megacam 280H with .517L [email protected] and the stock rockers he uses are the old style (non rail type)which I have used with a slightly bigger cam than that.It also says he uses screw in studs and guideplates.As for the backwards pistons it would depend on the exact piston and how much the pin was offset as to how much power you would gain.He's claiming 15-30 hp. I would imagine the reason its not mainstream is because of the piston slap noise.
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n2oMike Gearhead Posts: 2831 From: Spencer, WV Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 05-16-2002 06:54 AM
Here's the article online...http://www.jason.fletcher.net/tech/sherman/sherman.htm Good Luck! ------------------ Mike Burch 66 mustang real street 302 4-speed 289 heads 10.63 @ 129.3 http://www.geocities.com/carbedstangs/cmml_mburch.html http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/healey/367 http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/moi-display.cgi?220
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smblk t-bolt Journeyman Posts: 93 From: port alberni BC Canada Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 05-17-2002 02:49 PM
I used a bigger cam than that originally with roller tip rockers and press in studs..worked fine.Isnt the only problem with press in's related to spring preassure?I'm interested in how 63 fairlanes setup works(I have a 64 fairlane)n20mike..that is the article I was reading..thanx all for the replies! ron
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