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smblk t-bolt
Journeyman Posts: 67
From: port alberni BC Canada
Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 04-30-2002 03:02 AM
   
Hi..new to this page.Can anyone help? heres what i have:
64 fairlane 2990lbs
289 30 over/11:1 comp/69 351 heads(ported exaust)lunati 230 dur(@050)520 lift/headers/ good ignition(15 ini-39 total)
offy low-riser dual-4(carter 625's progressive)
c-6 manual shift/3200 actual stall
4:11(single track)11" sticky street tires
slapper bars
problem? at the strip i ran a 14.08, was expecting a 13.4
I was traction limited(got a spool for this year)and i realize i may be over carbed(but i like the look)I'll try a single four setup for racing, but which one?thanx!
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 04-30-2002 09:32 AM
Welcome to M&M  !
Now on to your problems. 
Too much timing. 
Too much carburito.
Too big a transmission.
Not enough stall speed. ;(
Not enough gear.
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Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator/ non 65-66 Mustang owner sensitivity co-ordinator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Part time secret agent license #0089
US Class Nationals link
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smblk t-bolt
Journeyman Posts: 67
From: port alberni BC Canada
Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 04-30-2002 07:45 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Moneymaker:Now on to your problems.
Too much timing.
Too much carburito.
Too big a transmission.
Not enough stall speed.
Not enough gear. thanks for the reply...I would still like to drive regularly on the street so more gear/stall is out.I'm willing to bolt single four setup for raceday I know it will be a compromise but I'd like to get it as quick as I can.Do you have any timing,carb and manifold recomendations based on this setup? thanks for any help!
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6522
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 04-30-2002 08:38 PM
The VicJr intake with a Holley 650 dp'r timed at 35-36 degrees before 3000 rpm. Also, get a pair of M/T et streets and do a long burnout after the water box! Then you'll get into a bogging problem, but that is good (you won't be traction challenged anymore). Then we can fix the bog and you'll be on your way. SteveW
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6522
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 04-30-2002 08:39 PM
Heck,Where are my manners? WELCOME TO M&M!! SteveW
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Fordwiser
Gearhead Posts: 217
From: Metamora, Illinois
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 04-30-2002 08:39 PM
JPT tranies sells a spline adapter that will let you use your present converter in a C4, would make a world of difference! Also get some real slicks to go along with that spool!
Roger
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6522
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 04-30-2002 08:43 PM
Also,Alex is right-on with his quick response. The c-6 may be costing you .3-.6 on your et. And your converter is way too tight. It needs to let the little motor spin to get into it's h.p. range. I know a custom converter and a nice race prepped c-4 aren't cheap, but there is real et (like a second) to be gained there! Good luck, SteveW
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 04-30-2002 10:50 PM
You can keep the quads, but they need to be the smaller 400 CFM Jimmy Carter specials. Otherwise, loosen the lash about .008 to .010, reduce the timing to 35 degrees, put some 18 inch collector extentions on the headers when they are open and go. 
Oh yeah, if you have a girlyman juice cam, then I suggest that you just go to car shows. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator/ non 65-66 Mustang owner sensitivity co-ordinator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Part time secret agent license #0089
US Class Nationals link
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clevelandstyle
Gearhead Posts: 638
From: Connersville, IN
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 04-30-2002 11:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Oh yeah, if you have a girlyman juice cam, then I suggest that you just go to car shows.
Well put!!!! ------------------
Ben
Grabber Green '70 Mach I 351C 4V
Robbin Egg Blue '79 Fairmont 351C 4V
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bfxcomet
Gearhead Posts: 574
From: Port Alberni, B.C. , Canada
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 05-01-2002 12:50 AM
Hey Ron glad you finally joined in, lots of good info,and no you can't have your old C4 back as it will be in the T-bird soon.
Roger ------------------
65 comet project
84 T-bird
Made in CANADA built for speed
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smblk t-bolt
Journeyman Posts: 67
From: port alberni BC Canada
Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 05-01-2002 04:49 AM
quote:
Originally posted by bfxcomet:
Hey Ron glad you finally joined in, lots of good info,and no you can't have your old C4 back as it will be in the T-bird soon.
Roger
and to think I call you a friend....
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smblk t-bolt
Journeyman Posts: 67
From: port alberni BC Canada
Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 05-01-2002 04:57 AM
quote:
Oh yeah, if you have a girlyman juice cam, then I suggest that you just go to car shows.
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Rats...car shows it is..now I gotta straighten the body out!will it ever end  Thanks for the advice everyone.resourses like this are pretty handy.
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 05-01-2002 09:59 AM
That's us, your "handymen"! ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator/ non 65-66 Mustang owner sensitivity co-ordinator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Part time secret agent license #0089
US Class Nationals link
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bfxcomet
Gearhead Posts: 574
From: Port Alberni, B.C. , Canada
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 05-01-2002 10:15 PM
If the girls don't find you handsome,
hope they find you handy.
Roger------------------
65 comet project
84 T-bird
Made in CANADA built for speed
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stang106
Gearhead Posts: 734
From: God's Country!... Port Alberni B.C. Canada
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 05-01-2002 11:33 PM
Hey Ron,
Save some cash for the 'GRUDGE MATCH"!!! I think that motor ran better in my old Comet!
Dave
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bfxcomet
Gearhead Posts: 574
From: Port Alberni, B.C. , Canada
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 05-01-2002 11:39 PM
Who else but a friend would sell you a 64 fairlane.Your welcome.
Roger
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65 comet project
84 T-bird
Made in CANADA built for speed
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dzznuts
Journeyman Posts: 32
From: oakville, ont, canada
Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 05-02-2002 11:31 AM
quote:
Originally posted by bfxcomet:
If the girls don't find you handsome,
hope they find you handy.
Roger
Did you know they were going to cancel that show. the only reason that it is still on the air is because so many americans complained. gotta love the red green show.
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