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smblk t-bolt
Journeyman

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From: port alberni BC Canada
Registered: Apr 2002

posted 04-30-2002 03:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for smblk t-bolt   Click Here to Email smblk t-bolt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi..new to this page.Can anyone help? heres what i have:
64 fairlane 2990lbs
289 30 over/11:1 comp/69 351 heads(ported exaust)lunati 230 dur(@050)520 lift/headers/ good ignition(15 ini-39 total)
offy low-riser dual-4(carter 625's progressive)
c-6 manual shift/3200 actual stall
4:11(single track)11" sticky street tires
slapper bars
problem? at the strip i ran a 14.08, was expecting a 13.4
I was traction limited(got a spool for this year)and i realize i may be over carbed(but i like the look)I'll try a single four setup for racing, but which one?

thanx!

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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
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posted 04-30-2002 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to M&M !
Now on to your problems.
Too much timing.
Too much carburito.
Too big a transmission.
Not enough stall speed. ;(
Not enough gear.

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smblk t-bolt
Journeyman

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posted 04-30-2002 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for smblk t-bolt   Click Here to Email smblk t-bolt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Moneymaker:

Now on to your problems.
Too much timing.
Too much carburito.
Too big a transmission.
Not enough stall speed.
Not enough gear.

thanks for the reply...I would still like to drive regularly on the street so more gear/stall is out.I'm willing to bolt single four setup for raceday I know it will be a compromise but I'd like to get it as quick as I can.Do you have any timing,carb and manifold recomendations based on this setup?

thanks for any help!

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steve'66
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posted 04-30-2002 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The VicJr intake with a Holley 650 dp'r timed at 35-36 degrees before 3000 rpm. Also, get a pair of M/T et streets and do a long burnout after the water box! Then you'll get into a bogging problem, but that is good (you won't be traction challenged anymore). Then we can fix the bog and you'll be on your way.

SteveW

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steve'66
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posted 04-30-2002 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heck,

Where are my manners?

WELCOME TO M&M!!

SteveW

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Fordwiser
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From: Metamora, Illinois
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posted 04-30-2002 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fordwiser   Click Here to Email Fordwiser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
JPT tranies sells a spline adapter that will let you use your present converter in a C4, would make a world of difference! Also get some real slicks to go along with that spool!
Roger

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steve'66
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posted 04-30-2002 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also,

Alex is right-on with his quick response. The c-6 may be costing you .3-.6 on your et. And your converter is way too tight. It needs to let the little motor spin to get into it's h.p. range. I know a custom converter and a nice race prepped c-4 aren't cheap, but there is real et (like a second) to be gained there! Good luck,

SteveW

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Moneymaker
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posted 04-30-2002 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can keep the quads, but they need to be the smaller 400 CFM Jimmy Carter specials. Otherwise, loosen the lash about .008 to .010, reduce the timing to 35 degrees, put some 18 inch collector extentions on the headers when they are open and go.
Oh yeah, if you have a girlyman juice cam, then I suggest that you just go to car shows.

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Alex Denysenko
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clevelandstyle
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posted 04-30-2002 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for clevelandstyle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:

Oh yeah, if you have a girlyman juice cam, then I suggest that you just go to car shows.


Well put!!!!

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Grabber Green '70 Mach I 351C 4V
Robbin Egg Blue '79 Fairmont 351C 4V

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bfxcomet
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From: Port Alberni, B.C. , Canada
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posted 05-01-2002 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bfxcomet   Click Here to Email bfxcomet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Ron glad you finally joined in, lots of good info,and no you can't have your old C4 back as it will be in the T-bird soon.
Roger

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84 T-bird
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smblk t-bolt
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posted 05-01-2002 04:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for smblk t-bolt   Click Here to Email smblk t-bolt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bfxcomet:
Hey Ron glad you finally joined in, lots of good info,and no you can't have your old C4 back as it will be in the T-bird soon.
Roger

and to think I call you a friend....

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smblk t-bolt
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posted 05-01-2002 04:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for smblk t-bolt   Click Here to Email smblk t-bolt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:

Oh yeah, if you have a girlyman juice cam, then I suggest that you just go to car shows.
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Rats...car shows it is..now I gotta straighten the body out!will it ever end

Thanks for the advice everyone.resourses like this are pretty handy.

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Moneymaker
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posted 05-01-2002 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's us, your "handymen"!

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Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator/ non 65-66 Mustang owner sensitivity co-ordinator

NHRA/IHRA/SRA member
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Part time secret agent license #0089
US Class Nationals link

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bfxcomet
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From: Port Alberni, B.C. , Canada
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posted 05-01-2002 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bfxcomet   Click Here to Email bfxcomet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If the girls don't find you handsome,
hope they find you handy.
Roger

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84 T-bird
Made in CANADA built for speed
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stang106
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posted 05-01-2002 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stang106   Click Here to Email stang106     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Ron,
Save some cash for the 'GRUDGE MATCH"!!! I think that motor ran better in my old Comet!
Dave

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bfxcomet
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posted 05-01-2002 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bfxcomet   Click Here to Email bfxcomet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who else but a friend would sell you a 64 fairlane.Your welcome.
Roger

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dzznuts
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From: oakville, ont, canada
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posted 05-02-2002 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dzznuts   Click Here to Email dzznuts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bfxcomet:
If the girls don't find you handsome,
hope they find you handy.
Roger


Did you know they were going to cancel that show. the only reason that it is still on the air is because so many americans complained. gotta love the red green show.

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