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SundanceKid
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posted 03-11-2002 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SundanceKid   Click Here to Email SundanceKid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will SuperComp (6111) headers clear a scatter shield (Lakewood 15202) on a 65 Mustang?

Thanks

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blown 351
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posted 03-11-2002 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blown 351   Click Here to Email blown 351     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure about the specific components you mentioned, but every scattershield I've every put on seems as if it had to be trimmed or flanged in some way.

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steve'66
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posted 03-11-2002 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The lakewood bell cleared the Heddman headers fine.

SteveW

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SundanceKid
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posted 03-12-2002 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SundanceKid   Click Here to Email SundanceKid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My headers are Hookers.

I am still desideing what way I wan't to go, scatter shield 300.00 or aluminum 180.00, or if I can score a SROD bellhousing used....

If I have to cut up a perfect new housing to fit that ain't to cool.

blown 351 what year and header did you use and what exactly had fitment problems.

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blown 351
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posted 03-12-2002 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blown 351   Click Here to Email blown 351     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The headers are ceramic coated hooker comps 1 5/8" primary 3" collector, not the super comps,(they hang down too low), on a 351 Winsor block. The scattershield is Lakewood,( I don't know the p/n at the moment but it is steel and gold color). Looking forward from underneath the vehicle, about 1/2" had to be trimmed from the scattershield flange at 7 o'clock. At the 5 o'clock position about 4" aft from the scattershield mounting flange, 1/8" or so had to be cupped out of the shield housing for primary tube clearance.
No other problems, and these were pretty easy to remedy. Cable clutch actuation had plenty of clearance

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Rory McNeil
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posted 03-12-2002 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rory McNeil   Click Here to Email Rory McNeil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
blown 351, if your scattershield is gold, I believe it would be a McLeod unit, as every Lakewood scattershield I`ve had were bright red. The McLeods usually seem to have wider flanges to get in the way of headers .

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blown 351
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posted 03-12-2002 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blown 351   Click Here to Email blown 351     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bet you're right Rory. It's a McLeod.

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SundanceKid
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posted 03-12-2002 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SundanceKid   Click Here to Email SundanceKid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Blown351, thanks for your help, you at least gave good discriptions of your situation...LOL This is gonna be one of those I guess I'll find out kinda things.

I already asked Alex about this but let me ask again.

I will have a 400HP (approx) engine. The car will be used for street and auto cross, drag racing once or twice a year for fun, on street or track slicks, never drag slicks. The car will see 7000 and will be shifted hard, but no clutch drops at 7000 or anything like that.
I'm trying to deside if the clearance issue, cost and the weight issue of a scatter shield is worth the safty at my level?
On the one hand aluminum will weigh 36 lbs. less but something keeps me thinking a scatter shield wouldn't be such a bad thing to have.
The lighter the car the better, but should I scimp on the bell housing keeps running through my head.

Thanks for any input, sorry I ramble

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Ryan Wilke
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posted 03-12-2002 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke   Click Here to Email Ryan Wilke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SundanceKid:
My rule is if I think about it more than once, I install the safety gear.

You don't want to be always wondering if it'll come thru the floorboards on this launch or the next....not to mention that we all know the cost diff isn't a real factor; 'cause if it does come apart, it'll tear up and break a whole lot more than the diff of 180$ vs. 300$...

Just my 1.5 cents worth. Ryan

[This message has been edited by Ryan Wilke (edited 03-12-2002).]

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SundanceKid
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posted 03-13-2002 03:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SundanceKid   Click Here to Email SundanceKid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good point Ryan thanks.

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stang106
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posted 03-13-2002 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stang106   Click Here to Email stang106     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any racers with first hand experience of clutch/flywheel coming apart at 7,000 RPM?
Doesn't sound like fun. I shattered an aluminum bell housing once- after I removed the scattershield- at a 6,000 RPM shift from 3rd to 4th and The vibration was so intense I couldn't see through the windshield. Broke lots of parts that time and- I put the scatter shield back in.
Dave

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