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2BAD6568s
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posted 02-27-2002 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2BAD6568s   Click Here to Email 2BAD6568s     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am in the middle of building a 68 mustang coupe. It is going to be a daily driver that I will take to the Track every Once in a while to whip a few chevys. It has a 289 that I am totally rebuilding. I am aiming for about 325 horsepower and about 9.5/1 compression. I was wondering what your suggestions would be for an intake and cam setup. I already have 1.6 roller rockers and a pete Jackson gear drive.

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steve'66
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posted 02-27-2002 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK,

I'll go first,

a Comp 270S.


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steve'66
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posted 02-27-2002 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh,

And don't forget a Edelbrock RPM air gap intake, AND...I almost forgot, WELCOME TO M&M!! Post often and be well.

SteveW

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kid vishus
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posted 02-27-2002 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to M&M

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1trickpony
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posted 02-27-2002 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1trickpony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by steve'66:
Oh,

And don't forget a Edelbrock RPM air gap intake, AND...I almost forgot, WELCOME TO M&M!! Post often and be well.

SteveW


hmm, I have been thinking about updating my old Edelbrock performer for a Performer RPM. What is this "air gap" thing you are talkin about. I understand what air gap is as far as exhaust tubing goes but what exactly does it mean on an intake? I looked on Edelbrocks site and could not find any references to it.
Please forgive my ignorance.

Dave

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steve'66
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posted 02-28-2002 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dave,

The "air gap" has an air gap between the base of the rpm imtake and the runners. Should allow for cooler incoming air/fuel charge to the cylinders. It may be marketing hype, but it sounds good.

SteveW

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MDF99
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posted 02-28-2002 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MDF99   Click Here to Email MDF99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those intakes look good too. Welcome, always good to see an Ohio gearhead!! Colder than %$&##@* up here these days, just about too cold to work on the car, I just go up to the barn all bundled up, shiver and look at it ...HA!

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1trickpony
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posted 02-28-2002 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1trickpony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Steve,

Sounds like it is the same principal as air gap exhaust tubing used on some imports instead of the "tack-welded on tin" heat shields. In theory it sounds like it may make a difference, probably one of those that the engine notices more than the driver.

Dave

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-28-2002 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to M&M !Correct choices guys.
You see I have them all trained very well.

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TorinoVT
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posted 02-28-2002 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TorinoVT   Click Here to Email TorinoVT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I had the same thing happen to me. What I did was take a hammer and pound through all the studs (leave ONE in at the top with a nut on it so the whole thing doesnt fall on your face!) with all the studs pounded through all I had to do was give it a tap with a lead shot hammer and it popped loose easily. Oh, you'll want to thread an old nut on each stud so you dont bugger up the thread.

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V8 Thumper
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posted 02-28-2002 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
You see I have them all trained very well.


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Moneymaker
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posted 02-28-2002 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey that was your 302 nd post.

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Alex Denysenko
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stretracer19
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posted 02-28-2002 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stretracer19   Click Here to Email stretracer19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just here to say welcome

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2BAD6568s
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posted 02-28-2002 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2BAD6568s   Click Here to Email 2BAD6568s     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by steve'66:
OK,

I'll go first,

a Comp 270S.


SteveW


do you have one of these in a car. does it idle and have a great sounding lope?

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steve'66
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posted 02-28-2002 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually,

I have a 282s in a car that sounds and runs great! But you only want 325h.p. and ours is too strong for your requirements.

We put a 270s in a freind's car and it has a little lope to it and good power throughout the power curve. Alex has been recomending it for years, so that's where the "training" comment came from. Ruff Ruff

SteveW

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2BAD6568s
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posted 02-28-2002 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2BAD6568s   Click Here to Email 2BAD6568s     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by steve'66:
Actually,

I have a 282s in a car that sounds and runs great! But you only want 325h.p. and ours is too strong for your requirements.

We put a 270s in a freind's car and it has a little lope to it and good power throughout the power curve. Alex has been recomending it for years, so that's where the "training" comment came from. Ruff Ruff

SteveW


how much horsepower and lope does the 282s give you.

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-28-2002 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
282S requires good heads and higher compression. Big intake and carb too!
270S is a great unit.

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Alex Denysenko
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steve'66
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posted 02-28-2002 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 2BAD6568s:
how much horsepower and lope does the 282s give you.

If you're gonna run 9.5-1 compression and a 289, then stick to the 270s Comp Cam! You'll be glad you did and should reach your h.p. goal. If you want to better the 400 mark then stroke it, or go with a 351w and use good heads with a 282s like we did. You'll be happy with the 270s or even the 270h if you really have to have hydraulic lifters. Good luck,

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chips67
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posted 03-01-2002 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chips67   Click Here to Email chips67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HEY MOE!! i want closer to 400hp at the flywheel, natural of course. can i get it with less than 6500 rpms (stock short block) and my current heads by going with a particular comp grind?? mm&ff says they did with a 282 xe cam....but are they liars? what cam you guys say go with for max power, all in by 6500, and idle under 1000 rpms....??? and i'd like fries with that.

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the last dive
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posted 03-01-2002 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the last dive     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
if a 282s requires good heads higher comp bigger intake and carb what does a 294s req??

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V8 Thumper
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posted 03-01-2002 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tunnelram!

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Moneymaker
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posted 03-01-2002 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bigger and better yet. The 294 is more of a race cam and really should not be on the street in a daily driver at all.

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Alex Denysenko
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