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65driver
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posted 02-25-2002 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65driver        Reply w/Quote
I just got off the phone with Summit, wanting to order a set of Edlebrock Performer RPM heads for my 289. They said I would have to drill steam holes in the block, or I would "toast the head gaskets". The said for a pre-'72 block, this is required! Is this true? If so, how is it done?

n2oMike
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posted 02-25-2002 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for n2oMike        Reply w/Quote
The Edelbrock heads have that big circular steam hole groove machined into them that allows them to work with all the existing blocks and head gaskets. Edelbrock made them "idiot proof". AFR does this as well.

Good Luck!

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65driver
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posted 02-25-2002 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65driver        Reply w/Quote
So, no drilling or anything. Just bolt on and go, basically. I have been known to do idiotic things myself once in a while! What the heck was the Summit guy talking about?

steve'66
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posted 02-25-2002 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66        Reply w/Quote
I would check your head gaskets on the heads and the block to make sure the steam ports line up before bolting everything up.

SteveW

ccode67
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posted 02-26-2002 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ccode67        Reply w/Quote
If you are running a 289, you WILL have to drill the hole, the instructions for the heads have detailed guides to do this. It's no big deal, an 1/8 hole drilled through the deck into the water jacket.

V8 Thumper
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posted 02-26-2002 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper        Reply w/Quote
Drilling the steam holes is required for early blocks. I've got Trick Flow heads going on an early block, I'll have to drill out the steam holes too. Just like ccode67 said... detailed instructions ought to be included... probably use a head gasket as a layout template

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65driver
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posted 02-26-2002 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65driver        Reply w/Quote
If you drill the block, what about all the filings that go into the water jacket? What happens to them?

Also, I just called AFR about their heads, and they said that there is no drilling the block. Just bolt on and go.

I am confused!

[This message has been edited by 65driver (edited 02-26-2002).]

V8 Thumper
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posted 02-26-2002 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper        Reply w/Quote
Well, I see it this way:

Big-time manufacturers (AFR included) hire professionals to develop their product and have invested tens/hundreds of thousands of dollars (or more) in R&D. They know more about the product than you or I ever will, so go with what the manufactuer recommends. It's their a** something goes wrong with the product, but it's your a** if you don't follow their procedure.

Just my $.02

steve'66
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posted 02-26-2002 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 65driver:
If you drill the block, what about all the filings that go into the water jacket? What happens to them?

I am confused!

[This message has been edited by 65driver (edited 02-26-2002).]


Whatever filings fall into the water jackets will turn into iron oxide eventually. No big deal.

SteveW

n2oMike
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posted 02-27-2002 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for n2oMike        Reply w/Quote
Here's a picture of the head's deck with the steam hole groove. This groove sweeps across the steam hole region, and allows the head to work on all blocks WITHOUT drilling.

This particular head is an AFR, but Edelbrock does the same thing.

Good Luck!

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Mike Burch
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posted 02-27-2002 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker        Reply w/Quote
Consider the filings as a good "stop leak".

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65driver
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posted 02-27-2002 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65driver        Reply w/Quote
Thanks for all the info. BTW, I spoke with AFR several times, got right through on their tech line, and their tech folks were very helpful. I have emailed and called the Edlebrock tech folks several times, and have yet to get through. The AFR folks offered to change the springs on the heads to match my cam, explained their casting methods, and were great to deal with. I think I am going to go with the AFRs.

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