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THUMPING COUGAR
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posted 02-16-2002 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THUMPING COUGAR   Click Here to Email THUMPING COUGAR     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i want to build a 428 stroker and comp cams does not make a hydraulic cam that is big enough they make cams with big duration but not big lift i was thinking that i need at least 600 lift for this thing to produce horsepower, does anyone know who would make a cam that i could use for this motor let me know thanks

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TomP
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posted 02-16-2002 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
probably a good reason for that too... like the lifters probably can't handle the valvespring pressure a fast acting cam like that would need.

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Mpcoluv
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posted 02-17-2002 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mpcoluv   Click Here to Email Mpcoluv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ultradyne makes hyd cams for Clevelands that are over .600 lift.
If you really need .600 lift, use 1.7 rockers.

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kid vishus
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posted 02-17-2002 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The amount of lift needed to make power hinges entirely on the cylinder head. If the head doesnt gain anymore cfm after .500 lift, then it wont make any difference on power levels if the valve is opened .600 or .700. The duration and centerline is what will make the power. Big lift is a very small part of what the power level go up. Look at the stock class cars. They are restricted to stock lift levels, but can do anything they want to the duration, centerline, and LSA. Some of those stock class cars flat out fly with cams that only have .450 lift.

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Gary
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posted 02-17-2002 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gary   Click Here to Email Gary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Need a cam? take your pick! www.reedcams.com

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-17-2002 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now why in the hell would you even consider a hyraulic cam with .600 lift? DId you ever stop to think that the reason that one is not offered is because it is not practical?

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THUMPING COUGAR
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posted 02-18-2002 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for THUMPING COUGAR   Click Here to Email THUMPING COUGAR     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i found a good mechanical flat tappet cam by erson, thanks for the help

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Butch Jennings
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posted 02-18-2002 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Butch Jennings   Click Here to Email Butch Jennings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

One of my personal favorites is an UltraDyne solid 288/296, 255/263 @ .050, .630/.650 lift @ 108. I had the same grind done on a 112 for Rod's Galaxie, ask Larry....both of those cams ROCK!!!

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posted 02-18-2002 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
33-648-5 Comp has always been a favorite of mine for FE's. 256/266, .600/.626 @ 108. Very nice!

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posted 02-18-2002 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for '69Stang   Click Here to Email '69Stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moneymaker: Is that Comp cam streetable?

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-18-2002 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Technically, ANYTHING is streetable.

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posted 02-18-2002 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for '69Stang   Click Here to Email '69Stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Common, you know what I mean....is it too much for a weekend street car?

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posted 02-18-2002 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As long as you have good lifters, springs, retainers, keepers,and rocker arms/shafts it will be fine for a S&S car. FoMoCo offered a .600 lift solid FE cam over the counter for years.

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