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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 7611
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 02-13-2002 10:55 PM
   
i run a sbf with a rpm (dual plane) intake. 60ft=1.60 et=7.60 1/8 @88mph. if i change to a torker (single plane) how much difference will i see in my 60 ft and total time? i am trying to soften my launch some for more consistancy.
thanks in advance------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-7.56 @88mph 1/8
1.56 60 ft.
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Moneymaker
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posted 02-13-2002 10:58 PM
It will probably pick up Mike. It wil make more power overall with a Torker so you won't kill much at all.  ------------------
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GTS Racing
Journeyman Posts: 76
From: Thor, Iowa 50591
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 02-13-2002 11:06 PM
Hey Mike. Are you running a 289-302 or a 351w? If you are running a 351w, I know where you can pick up a Torker II pretty reasonable.
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 7611
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 02-13-2002 11:27 PM
thanks guys, i am running a 302 and i have the torker already. will it be worth the trouble to change it? will it soften my launch any?------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-7.56 @88mph 1/8
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Moneymaker
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posted 02-15-2002 10:31 AM
It will be worth the trouble Mike. ------------------
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 7611
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 02-15-2002 01:11 PM
by the way, this is not a torker II. it has a 1976 patent stamped on the bottom. will this matter? also how will this intake affect my jetting? do you think i will have to go leaner or richer? thanks------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-7.56 @88mph 1/8
1.56 60 ft. [This message has been edited by capri man (edited 02-15-2002).]
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67coupe
Gearhead Posts: 491
From: dallas NC usa
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 02-15-2002 01:29 PM
IS THE CARB MOUNTING PLATE CROOKED A LITTLE IF SO IT IS THE ORIGINAL TORKER WHICH I HAVENT TESTED BUT ID THINK IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BETTER ON TOP END THAN THE TORKERII------------------
Josh
67 coupe with 351c
94 Explorer
30 model A currently rustbucket
in process 67 convt with efi 5.0 and t5
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Moneymaker
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posted 02-15-2002 01:37 PM
Yeah it matters Mike. Is it a crooked deal where the carb sits on an angle? If it is then DO NOT use it Mike. It is junk. That is the original Torker 289. ------------------
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n2oMike
Gearhead Posts: 2831
From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 02-15-2002 02:17 PM
That's odd...At one time I had a Torker II on my engine. It made very little low-end and midrange, but did okay up top. After switching to the original Torker 289 (with a little radiusing work done to blend the plenum into the port roof, and the heat riser welded off) the engine ran MUCH better than it did with the Torker II. I haven't been able to find anyone that really likes the Torker II. In an OLD Super Ford dyno test of 302 intakes, the Weiand Accelerator, which is pretty much identical to the Torker, except the carb sits straight, made the most power. The Victor Jr. was not tested (not out yet). The original Torker was not tested (discontinued), and none of the larger dual planes (Stealth, RPM, etc) were out yet, either. I sold it to a buddy for $82 (it's all he had, and I owed him a favor) who picked up 4 tenths after replacing a small dual plane with it. All you're going to be out is a set of gaskets. You don't even have to pull the distributer if you're careful. It may or may not run better, but you'll at least learn something from the experience. My bet is your existing intake will probably work a little better since with the Torker 289, the flowpath to a couple of those corner cylinders will have a serious "kink" at the intake/head interface, but ya' never know.... Good Luck! ------------------
Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
10.63 @ 129.3
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http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/moi-display.cgi?220 [This message has been edited by n2oMike (edited 02-15-2002).]
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 7611
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 02-15-2002 05:19 PM
damn, why dont yall just try to confuse me??? hee hee------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-7.56 @88mph 1/8
1.56 60 ft.
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bluestreek
Gearhead Posts: 1724
From: Athens,GA
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 02-15-2002 10:37 PM
Go for it!!  If you want to try it, the Torker should move your torque range up about 500 rpms and increase your throttle response which might make your launch a little smoother and more consistent. I think it's worth a try but don't expect any miracles though. The RPM is the 1000-6000rpm HP leader among SBF intakes. Have fun!! BS
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 27499
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 02-16-2002 12:41 AM
Good luck!  We had to cut the top off and straigten ours out to make it work almost as good as a C90X. ------------------
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bluestreek
Gearhead Posts: 1724
From: Athens,GA
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 02-16-2002 01:41 AM
Hey Alex, I have a copy of the C90X that is called " Colt 500 " and it kicks butt!! I cracked it one day trying to get it to seal on a set of highly shaved heads. I had to purchase an RPM to replace it that weekend and haven't had it fixed yet. I think I remember loosing 1.5 mph with the switch, but e.t. stayed the same. I gotta get that baby welded up so I can try it on my little 289/331 stroker when it's finished. Here's a nice piece: intake BS
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
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posted 02-17-2002 01:08 PM
YOu just can't beat a C90X for under 7000 RPM applications. ------------------
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 7611
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 02-17-2002 02:25 PM
what is a c90x??------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-7.56 @88mph 1/8
1.56 60 ft.
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
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posted 02-17-2002 03:35 PM
Best FOMoCo 289-302 intake ever made. ------------------
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 7611
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 02-17-2002 03:48 PM
okie dokie!!------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-7.56 @88mph 1/8
1.56 60 ft.
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 7611
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 02-23-2002 06:59 PM
ok guys, i put on the old torker this week. no other changes. the last time i ran the rpm under almost identical weather conditions it went 1.60-1.62 60ft. 7.587-7.604 1/8
this week;
60ft 1/8
1.68 7.72
1.64 7.65
1.66 7.61
1.62 7.63
1.67 7.67
1.69 7.71
not a lot slower but very inconsistant. the weather never changed all afternoon.
any ideas? thanks------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-7.56 @88mph 1/8
1.56 60 ft.
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 27499
From: Lyons, IL, USA
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posted 02-23-2002 11:21 PM
Yes Mike. 
PUT THE PERFORMER RPM BACK ON!  ------------------
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Moneymaker
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posted 02-23-2002 11:23 PM
You can try a plenum devider to regain some of your lost bottom end Mike, but I would switch the intake back. ------------------
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