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Topic: Which 351W block for a 393 stroker?
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I65Stang Moderator Posts: 5087 From: Antelope, CA Registered: Jun 99
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posted 01-28-2002 04:20 PM
Ok, do I need a 9.480" ('69-70) or 9.503" ('71-96) block for a 393? I am betting its a 9.503" as thats the normal but wanna make sure. Anyone recall offhand what year Ford switched to the roller cam block?------------------ Tim M&M Member #35 1965 Mustang coupe, 200 I6, Holley 2300, Clifford header, true duals w/ 26" Smithys 1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% stock w/ no traction 1976 Silverline Comoro 18' trihull ski boat, 188 hp 302 I/O, another toy http://all.at/mustang https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/I65Stang.html
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steve'66 Gearhead Posts: 3653 From: Sonoma,CA,USA Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-29-2002 10:32 AM
Tim,I'd use the taller block, and I don't think 351w's ever had roller cams. SteveW
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I65Stang Moderator Posts: 5087 From: Antelope, CA Registered: Jun 99
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posted 01-29-2002 10:50 AM
Thanks Steve. Actually I know the 351W did go to roller cam, the Lightning had a roller cam.Ok, I found the year, went to roller cam in '94 . ------------------ Tim M&M Member #35 1965 Mustang coupe, 200 I6, Holley 2300, Clifford header, true duals w/ 26" Smithys 1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% stock w/ no traction 1976 Silverline Comoro 18' trihull ski boat, 188 hp 302 I/O, another toy http://all.at/mustang https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/I65Stang.html [This message has been edited by I65Stang (edited 01-29-2002).]
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steve'66 Gearhead Posts: 3653 From: Sonoma,CA,USA Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-29-2002 10:54 AM
I thought so too, but Alex insisted that 351w's never had roller cams last year when I was asking the same question. So I'm still not sure. SteveW
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I65Stang Moderator Posts: 5087 From: Antelope, CA Registered: Jun 99
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posted 01-29-2002 11:08 AM
I know for a fact the Lightning had them .Oh btw, I have a line on a forged 393 crank, just have to find out who made it (I think its that "cat" company) before I buy it . ------------------ Tim M&M Member #35 1965 Mustang coupe, 200 I6, Holley 2300, Clifford header, true duals w/ 26" Smithys 1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% stock w/ no traction 1976 Silverline Comoro 18' trihull ski boat, 188 hp 302 I/O, another toy http://all.at/mustang https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/I65Stang.html
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clevelandstyle Gearhead Posts: 178 From: Connersville, IN Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 01-29-2002 12:36 PM
I beleive that the '94 and up blocks are roller cam compatable, but they don't all have rollers.------------------ Ben Grabber Green '70 Mach I 351C 4V Robbin Egg Blue '79 Fairmont 351C 4V
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Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 11493 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99
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posted 01-29-2002 05:17 PM
Correct. SOME 94 and up 351W blocks were cast with the roller provisions, but few were produced with roller cams. 94-95 Lightnings came with hydraulic flat tappet cams. ------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02 Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 Part time secret agent license #0089 US Class Nationals link
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67Coupster Journeyman Posts: 67 From: Fortson, GA, USA Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 01-30-2002 09:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by Moneymaker: Correct. SOME 94 and up 351W blocks were cast with the roller provisions, but few were produced with roller cams. 94-95 Lightnings came with hydraulic flat tappet cams.
Actually it was 93-95 Lightnings :-) I had a 95 and the block on it was F4TE I believe, it was a roller block with the flat tappet cam. That was one fun truck. Ran some 12.0's with bolt ons. S-trim, full exhaust, ported iron GT-40s and about 16 psi of boost and a custom chip from Johnson Motorsports. I think Chris still has some info on the truck at his website at JMS.com ------------------ James 67 Coupe 393W, AFR 185, 4 Speed, 4.11 9 inch 7.39 @ 96MPH 1/8 1.66 60'
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Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 11493 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99
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posted 01-30-2002 10:55 AM
OOPS! Oh yeah, 1993. SOrry for the typo. I should have remembered. I had a white demo that was very fast and fun. ------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02 Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 Part time secret agent license #0089 US Class Nationals link
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I65Stang Moderator Posts: 5087 From: Antelope, CA Registered: Jun 99
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posted 01-31-2002 06:38 PM
Thanks guys. The stroker crank ended up being a cast not forged so I didnt jump on it (the deal will be around). I just hope the other people that bought one asked and got clarified it was a cast crank unlike advertised (guy told me it was good up to 500 hp so I questioned him as that would be a crappy forged crank, it was cast, he made a mistake in the ad). Its still around $80 cheaper than the Scat cranks I've seen on e-bay.------------------ Tim M&M Member #35 1965 Mustang coupe, 200 I6, Holley 2300, Clifford header, true duals w/ 26" Smithys 1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% stock w/ no traction 1976 Silverline Comoro 18' trihull ski boat, 188 hp 302 I/O, another toy http://all.at/mustang https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/I65Stang.html
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steve'66 Gearhead Posts: 3653 From: Sonoma,CA,USA Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-31-2002 06:49 PM
Tim,You could put the rotating balanced assly from Melissa's into your block, in fact you might as well use the rpm heads and intake too. We're gonna use the block from the 351w, and not much else for the 408w. You might as well use the old balancer too. You could use the Comp 282s cam or upgrade to a solid roller. I bet it'll be plenty fast with a larger roller cam. SteveW
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