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I65Stang
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posted 01-28-2002 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I65Stang   Click Here to Email I65Stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, do I need a 9.480" ('69-70) or 9.503" ('71-96) block for a 393? I am betting its a 9.503" as thats the normal but wanna make sure. Anyone recall offhand what year Ford switched to the roller cam block?

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posted 01-29-2002 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim,

I'd use the taller block, and I don't think 351w's ever had roller cams.


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posted 01-29-2002 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I65Stang   Click Here to Email I65Stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Steve. Actually I know the 351W did go to roller cam, the Lightning had a roller cam.

Ok, I found the year, went to roller cam in '94 .

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posted 01-29-2002 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought so too, but Alex insisted that 351w's never had roller cams last year when I was asking the same question. So I'm still not sure.


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posted 01-29-2002 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I65Stang   Click Here to Email I65Stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know for a fact the Lightning had them .

Oh btw, I have a line on a forged 393 crank, just have to find out who made it (I think its that "cat" company) before I buy it .

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Tim

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posted 01-29-2002 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for clevelandstyle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I beleive that the '94 and up blocks are roller cam compatable, but they don't all have rollers.

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posted 01-29-2002 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Correct. SOME 94 and up 351W blocks were cast with the roller provisions, but few were produced with roller cams. 94-95 Lightnings came with hydraulic flat tappet cams.

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Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Correct. SOME 94 and up 351W blocks were cast with the roller provisions, but few were produced with roller cams. 94-95 Lightnings came with hydraulic flat tappet cams.


Actually it was 93-95 Lightnings :-) I had a 95 and the block on it was F4TE I believe, it was a roller block with the flat tappet cam.

That was one fun truck. Ran some 12.0's with bolt ons. S-trim, full exhaust, ported iron GT-40s and about 16 psi of boost and a custom chip from Johnson Motorsports. I think Chris still has some info on the truck at his website at JMS.com

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posted 01-30-2002 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OOPS! Oh yeah, 1993. SOrry for the typo. I should have remembered. I had a white demo that was very fast and fun.

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posted 01-31-2002 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I65Stang   Click Here to Email I65Stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks guys. The stroker crank ended up being a cast not forged so I didnt jump on it (the deal will be around). I just hope the other people that bought one asked and got clarified it was a cast crank unlike advertised (guy told me it was good up to 500 hp so I questioned him as that would be a crappy forged crank, it was cast, he made a mistake in the ad). Its still around $80 cheaper than the Scat cranks I've seen on e-bay.

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Tim

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steve'66
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posted 01-31-2002 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim,

You could put the rotating balanced assly from Melissa's into your block, in fact you might as well use the rpm heads and intake too. We're gonna use the block from the 351w, and not much else for the 408w. You might as well use the old balancer too. You could use the Comp 282s cam or upgrade to a solid roller. I bet it'll be plenty fast with a larger roller cam.

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