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iamblackjack
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From: A small town in South East Texas.............Houston.
Registered: Jan 2002

posted 01-04-2002 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iamblackjack   Click Here to Email iamblackjack     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got an 8", 3.50:1, in my 65. The chunk is pretty beefy. It's got 2 or 3 vertical ribs and 3 horizonal ribs. I've never had a problem with it, but here's my delima:
1. I want to narrow my axle a little because I currently have 4.5" offset wheels (15x8"wide), but I want to go anther inch in.I want to narrow it to where I can use a reg.3.5" off set for a good deep dish look (I'm getting 18"s in the rear).
2. I want disc brakes. I have front disc.
3. I've run across a deal (I think it's a deal. Let me know if it isn't) on a Versilles 9" rear end. Problem is, I'd have to narrow it any way and it's a 2 some thing gear so I'd have get new gear also.
Question: Should I stick with my 8" and put disc on it or is the 9" worth the trouble? (the Versilles rear end was $300)
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steve'66
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From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000

posted 01-04-2002 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IBJ,

The versilles is about an inch wider than your '65's 8" rear. I'd have it narrowed 2 inches (or maybe more) and run it. The 8" isn't worth the investment.

SteveW

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iamblackjack
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From: A small town in South East Texas.............Houston.
Registered: Jan 2002

posted 01-04-2002 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iamblackjack   Click Here to Email iamblackjack     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a print out of a web site with some good info on 9"s. http://hiqties.hypermart.net/9inch.html. It has all the messurements and tag codes. Assuming that it's right, a Ver. is 58 1/2"(flange to flange), but it doesn't say what mine is. Any idea what it would cost to narrow, buy new gears, and have them set would cost?
P.S. Some reason the link above does not work (at least on my computer), but it seems to if you paste it in the address bar of your internet explorer.
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Originally posted by steve'66:
IBJ,

The versilles is about an inch wider than your '65's 8" rear. I'd have it narrowed 2 inches (or maybe more) and run it. The 8" isn't worth the investment.

SteveW


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Pair of '65s from Texas

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cpmaverick
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From: Auburn, AL.
Registered: Jan 2000

posted 01-04-2002 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpmaverick   Click Here to Email cpmaverick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bought a Versailles rearend for My Maverick. It is a little wider but in my case rims with a different offset are cheaper than narrowing the rearend. Actually Late Model Mustang offset is perfect.

The Versailles rearend is heavy, and probably not a whole lot stronger than the 8". The chunk case is weak, and the axles are still 28 spline. Parts are also pricey, it uses 4 seals and special bearings, plus calipers and rotors are expensive.

I am glad I chose the Versailles because it bolted in and I could buy a traction-lok for it cheaply (look at 8" T-Ls, they are pricey).

But in your case, since you are shortening the rearend anyway, I would get a truck rearend with 31 spline, shorten it, and put some Explorer rear discs on it. Stronger, and probably lighter than the Versailles unit.

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TomP
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posted 01-04-2002 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Forget the Versailles rear end... and you CAN'T narrow them without buying new expensive axles. The little parts like parking brake hardware are all obsolete. Use a Maverick 8" housing and axles or narrow a 9" to the same 56" overall width. much better rear brakes can be had off Explorers (fit only big bearing housing ends)or Crown Vics (fit small bearing ends). The Versaille rear is very heavy and has small brakes.

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steve'66
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From: Sonoma,CA,USA
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posted 01-04-2002 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Listen to TomP,

He knows his rears!
Fords anyway,

SteveW

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iamblackjack
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Posts: 190
From: A small town in South East Texas.............Houston.
Registered: Jan 2002

posted 01-04-2002 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iamblackjack   Click Here to Email iamblackjack     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What IS the width of my stock '65? I'm not at home right now. Any cost estimates on that truck rear end w/ explore brakes?

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