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JCQuinn@work
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From: Lakewood, CO, USA
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posted 10-25-2001 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JCQuinn@work   Click Here to Email JCQuinn@work     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alex,
Thank you for posting your engine info in one of the earlier posts. I am trying to put together a SS 289 combo so your information is very helpful. I noticed that you have 52.7 cc combustion chambers but the engine spec on the NHRA web says you can run 47.7 cc heads. Have they just changed the spec or do you run the extra cc in the head and use a thinner gasket?
I assume from your use of the A4 block with roller cam bearings that any small Ford block is acceptable?
Last question, The combo I plan to build is a 67 Cougar which uses C6CE-M,AA or C7OF-D head castings which are not on the SS port volume list. How do I get those castings listed?

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John Quinn
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Moneymaker
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posted 10-25-2001 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi John, NHRA has not changed any specs. If you noticed, I typed the casting number of my heads. They are C5AE-B's which are for the "D" code 210 HP engine or "K" code in a Mercury. NHRA has them listed as 1964's. Correct for a Merc, but erroneous for a Mustang. There is no such thing as a 64 Mustang as we all know. The "D" code engine has the 53 cc heads and 9 to 1 compression. The later 65-67 "A" code used the 48 cc heads for a compression ratio of 10 to 1.
To get a head certified you must contact the NHRA tech dept. You will have to submit a stock and a ported head for inspection. I suggest that you e-mail Travis Miller at [email protected] directly. He is a Ford man and the NHRA division 3 assistant tech director. Tell him I sent you and what you want to do and he will help you out. Like I said, he is a Ford man.
For stock and superstock, any OEM factory avalable replacement block is allowed. If it has a part number and you can buy it at a dealer you can use it. Mopar performance, GM Bowtie, FRPP etc. It of course must be of the same material ie: no aluminum replacments. Fontana, Dart, Indian Adventure, Donavan, KB, etc are not acceptable as they are not available from the OEM manufacturer. I started one of those Cougar SS cars once but a 68 with a "J" code 302 instead of a 289. I was offered to much money to refuse for the car before I began the project so I sold it. I still have some key parts for it though. like the "special" Holley 4150 "Merc only" carb. Good luck.

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JCQuinn@work
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posted 10-25-2001 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JCQuinn@work   Click Here to Email JCQuinn@work     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Alex.

I will contact Travis when I get home from work tonight, I kind of have to limit my internet time here.

One of the other problems I have is that while the 225hp 289 is listed in the classification guide, there is no engine spec for the Cougar version. I wiil ask Travis about that also as I know it was common for FOMOCO to use a different carburetor on Merc's.

Thanks again
John Quinn

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posted 10-25-2001 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
John, the 67 289's all used 1.08 Autolite 4100 series carbs. I have heard of some very late production cars with 4300 series carbs, but have never seen one. Cougars and Mustangs used the same carbs in 67 on all V-8's. The Holley on the 68 302/230 is bogus as hell but NHRA allows it.

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Alex Denysenko
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