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Topic: Ladder bars????
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Blu Dawg
Journeyman Posts: 60
From: Texas
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 10-08-2001 06:33 AM
   
Anyone using ladderbars right now, and full exhaust???????????? I really need to keep my car quite, while I also need to improve the short times a little!!!!Any ideas
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 10-08-2001 02:03 PM
Welcome to M&M Bluedawg  ! Tell us more about your car and what you intend to do with it. Ladder bars are NOT a good idea for the street and are NOT effective without a floater.  ------------------
Alex Denysenko
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Blu Dawg
Journeyman Posts: 60
From: Texas
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 10-08-2001 06:30 PM
My car is a '68 coupe. I have a 351 stroker with ported Brodix t-1's. Dynoed 490 hp,on the motor and 700hp on the nitrous. I have run a best of 11.40 on the motor and have recently gotten the nitrous lined out and am tring it out. With the nitrous, the car spinns like crazy, still running a 10.60. I have modified rear spring and some old slappers. Bat. in the back. On the motor I have run a best short time of 1.601, and on the nitrous was a 1.55 ( and yes that was spinning like crazy). I am so worried about screwing up something that is allready working pretty good, just not good enough
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 10-08-2001 07:05 PM
Easy one here now. Cal-Tracks will give you all of the traction and weight transfer you can handle with otherwise basic stock suspension. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator
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Blu Dawg
Journeyman Posts: 60
From: Texas
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 10-09-2001 09:14 AM
well that is one thing, I was going to put coil overs on with the ladder bars. I was told by some other persons that the caltrax bars would be good on a car in the 10 sec. range but not for any faster, and that you would need to buy spec. springs, and all corner Hal adj. shocks. That would put me over $1000 going with the cal-trax.What is it about the ladder bars that you don't like for the street? I am going to try to put this puppy well into the 9's!!!
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Blu Dawg
Journeyman Posts: 60
From: Texas
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 10-09-2001 09:19 AM
also, the four-link is a kind of clunky setup for street driving, and there are alot of rod ends to were out, and replace.
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n2oMike
Gearhead Posts: 1547
From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 10-09-2001 10:06 AM
4-links work a LOT better on the street than ladder bars. With ladder bars, anytime one wheel moves up or down, and the other does not, the suspension is in a bind. Ladder bars are designed for BOTH rear wheels to move up and down together. They just don't work independently. They are put in an automatic bind anytime they are forced to work independently. Major bumps and all can easily bend brackets and housings.A 4-link allows for a bit more independent motion, and is thus more friendly on the street. For a bit more "give" with either setup, special rod-ends with polyurethane bushings can be used. These ladder bars and 4-link setups are available from Chris Alstons Chassisworks. Try
www.cachassisworks.com Good Luck! ------------------
Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
10.63 @ 129.3
http://www.geocities.com/carbedstangs/cmml_mburch.html
http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/healey/367 [This message has been edited by n2oMike (edited 10-09-2001).] [This message has been edited by n2oMike (edited 10-09-2001).]
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 10-09-2001 12:20 PM
You should maybe check out the Owtlaw superstock cars or the NMCA "ten wide" cars. They all have Cal_track type bars and near stock suspensions. ^They run in the low 8's and high 7's by the way. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
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Blu Dawg
Journeyman Posts: 60
From: Texas
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 10-09-2001 05:59 PM
I take it that you also run the cal-trax bars? If so what other suspention upgrades do you have?
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 10-10-2001 01:25 PM
I do not use the Cal-Track bars on my three cars. Not applicable. I have used them on other friends cars and our team J/SA 73 Mustang. They are THE bar used in NHRA and IHRA stock eliminator on leaf sprung cars. They are adjustable and can be dialed in to hook as much as you need. Adjustable shocks are a must. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator
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NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00 & '01
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