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Topic: 302 Stroker kits
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bluestreek
Gearhead Posts: 1228
From: Athens,GA
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 08-30-2001 09:40 PM
   
Has anyone noticed that 302/347 street stroker kits are readily available for around $1200 now!! This includes everything but main gurdles and balancing.. This could easily create a 400hp/400ft-lb sleeper 302 Mustang. 
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n2oMike
Gearhead Posts: 1511
From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 08-30-2001 09:48 PM
For longevity, stick with a 331. 347ci is just too much for a standard 302 block. The pistons are too short and the pin is up in the oil ring. These engines typically burn oil and don't last all that long. You'll be much happier with the 3.25" stroke 331.
Check out...
www.flatlanderracing.com
for great deals on stroker kits.  Good Luck! ------------------
Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
10.63 @ 129.3
http://www.geocities.com/motorcitymustang/cmml/cmml_mburch.html
http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/healey/367
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bluestreek
Gearhead Posts: 1228
From: Athens,GA
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 08-30-2001 09:54 PM
These guys say that they have remedied the oil-usage problem and improved the rod-to-stroke ratio at the same time.. Check it out:
http://www.probeindustries.com/More_Info/more_347sf.htm [This message has been edited by bluestreek (edited 08-30-2001).]
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 4357
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 08-30-2001 09:56 PM
For a street motor I agree. But I have seen several race motors with the pin WAY up in the oil ring that dont burn oil and run extremely hard. There is one guy I know of with a 347 in a 86 mustang, it is a street car that he drives to work regularly. It has aluminum World Products heads, a solid roller, a carb on a Victor Jr and flat tops. It runs 10.90's with slicks and the mufflers uncorked.
Although I know of another fellow racer with a 347 in a race only car, that is having problems with the main caps walking even with the main girdle.
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Gearhead
Gearhead Posts: 2164
From: Vancouver Island, Great Wet North
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 08-31-2001 03:24 PM
Kid, do you know which company he got the 347 kit from? I've been looking at strokers to go in my 79 after I put my original 302 aside... just wondering which ones might be more reliable (or just stick with the 331). Thanks!Ian
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 4357
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 08-31-2001 04:39 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Gearhead:
Kid, do you know which company he got the 347 kit from? I've been looking at strokers to go in my 79 after I put my original 302 aside... just wondering which ones might be more reliable (or just stick with the 331). Thanks!Ian
Actually, I only see both guys a couple of times a year, and I have never asked them.
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Fordwiser
Gearhead Posts: 213
From: Metamora, Illinois
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 08-31-2001 05:10 PM
Hey Kid, I heard you met my buddy with the silver pinto at Cordova, and if that is the race car you are talking about with the 347 it's a probe kit. Roger
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 4357
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 08-31-2001 05:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Fordwiser:
Hey Kid, I heard you met my buddy with the silver pinto at Cordova, and if that is the race car you are talking about with the 347 it's a probe kit. Roger
Thats the one!! thanks Roger
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Fordwiser
Gearhead Posts: 213
From: Metamora, Illinois
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 08-31-2001 05:45 PM
Kid, you gonna be at the Fun Ford race in Cordova next week, or you gonna be lookin for more points in Eddyville? Roger
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65hoss
Gearhead Posts: 283
From: Memphis, TN
Registered: Feb 2000
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posted 09-04-2001 12:25 AM
My stroker kit came from Kuntz & Co. Same people that do Alex's work. Kuntz gathers the best parts and then does all the balancing work. P.S. You won't get a real good kit for $1200.
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TomP
Gearhead Posts: 4780
From: Delta BC Canada
Registered: Dec 99
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posted 09-04-2001 01:02 AM
Here might be the king of all 347 strokers.... http://www.horsepowerheaven.com/features_all/2001features/mrp2001/promod01sun/promod01sun-10.jpg this sucker is 1400 hp worth and was pretty reliable with a huge Vortech and 1000hp the last couple years.
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JAAZZY
Gearhead Posts: 745
From: Bay Area, CA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 09-04-2001 01:55 AM
As some of you may know I just got my Probe 347 finished up about a month ago. I don't have enough time on it yet to provide meaningful feedback but so far it runs great. I haven't been on it all that hard because the fuel injection has been acting up and I broke something in the clutch. I'll be sure to report as gather some info.Bluestreek email me privately if you have specific questions and to remind me to post a review down the road. [email protected]
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Doc
Gearhead Posts: 466
From: Redwood City, Ca. USA
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 09-04-2001 02:20 AM
Hey Tom is he gettin all the air for the intake from under the hood?
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 4357
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 09-04-2001 05:39 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Fordwiser:
Kid, you gonna be at the Fun Ford race in Cordova next week, or you gonna be lookin for more points in Eddyville? Roger
I'll be at Eddyville. I had a pretty disastrous weekend points wise and need to try and make up some of the ground I lost.
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289u4ea
Journeyman Posts: 41
From: Pleasanton, CA
Registered: May 2000
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posted 09-04-2001 03:27 PM
I have run across a vendor that is selling Ford stroker kits starting at $825 for a 331 and $845 for a 347.
Does anyone have experience with these guys, and do you think the kits components are any good?Here is the link to the website.
http://www.pmeracing.com/
Any comments?
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I65Stang
Gearhead Posts: 5923
From: Antelope, CA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 09-04-2001 07:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by 289u4ea:
I have run across a vendor that is selling Ford stroker kits starting at $825 for a 331 and $845 for a 347.
Does anyone have experience with these guys, and do you think the kits components are any good?Here is the link to the website.
http://www.pmeracing.com/
Any comments?
They are literally right down the street from my house (about 3 miles). I ran across their website last year and nobody I talked to around here had ever even heard of them so I dont know  . Notice that their cranks are for the 28 oz imbalance not the late model 50 oz. ------------------
Tim M&M Member #35
1965 Mustang coupe, 200 I6, Holley 2300, Clifford header, true duals w/ 26" Smithys
1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% stock w/ no traction
1976 Silverline Comoro 18' trihull ski boat, 188 hp 302 I/O, another toy
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ragtopjr
Gearhead Posts: 2447
From: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada.
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 09-04-2001 08:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TomP:
Here might be the king of all 347 strokers.... http://www.horsepowerheaven.com/features_all/2001features/mrp2001/promod01sun/ promod01sun-10.jpg this sucker is 1400 hp worth and was pretty reliable with a huge Vortech and 1000hp the last couple years.
Let me guess... Dals car? ------------------
Ed
Heart mods:Trick High flow titanium valve ported & polished Listen close: "tic tic tic" No folks thats not a noisy lifter thats the sound of big flow!
1984 5.0L LX Conv 3600 lbs 13.41 at 101.89 SIR
http://ragtopjr.hypermart.net/
http://ragtop-racing.stangnet.com/
http://mbmustangs.tripod.com/index.htm
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TomP
Gearhead Posts: 4780
From: Delta BC Canada
Registered: Dec 99
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posted 09-04-2001 09:43 PM
Yep Ed, thats the one.The inner fenders already both have holes and 6" hoses to the underside of the bumper... there have been a few different blowers on it, using left and right side mountings.
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TomP
Gearhead Posts: 4780
From: Delta BC Canada
Registered: Dec 99
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posted 09-04-2001 09:47 PM
Tim
You wouldn't want the 50oz imbalance if you had a choice, it was done for cost savings and lightweight stock parts. Internal balance would be best. Offset counterweights on the damper and flywheel are going to be harder on bearings.
Tom
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JAAZZY
Gearhead Posts: 745
From: Bay Area, CA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 09-05-2001 02:08 AM
Tim,I actually had mine balanced to 28oz as well. I didn't want to have the flywheel rebalanced and I didn't lose anything going that route.
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I65Stang
Gearhead Posts: 5923
From: Antelope, CA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 09-05-2001 02:34 AM
I'm just thinking about us late model guys with our 50 oz imbalance flywheels/flexplates . I know that the 28 oz is actually better for higher revving engines.------------------
Tim M&M Member #35
1965 Mustang coupe, 200 I6, Holley 2300, Clifford header, true duals w/ 26" Smithys
1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% stock w/ no traction
1976 Silverline Comoro 18' trihull ski boat, 188 hp 302 I/O, another toy
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https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/I65Stang.html
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TomP
Gearhead Posts: 4780
From: Delta BC Canada
Registered: Dec 99
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posted 09-05-2001 09:52 PM
"late model guys"?
TimI think its a good thing that you young whippersnappers have that 50oz imbalance. Keeps you from getting hurt until you have more driving experience 
Tom
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tomstir
Gearhead Posts: 104
From: San Jose CA USA
Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 09-11-2001 07:29 AM
I saw pmeracing at Pleasanton swap meet a few months ago. They had some cool stuff...alumimum radiators, reusable valve cover gaskets, and some trick valve covers. The owner wasn't there just a lady who called on her walkie-talkie to some guy about all the questions I had. I couldn't wait for him to show so I left. I took a flyer and at the bottom it says "Leonard Albert Auto Parts"....no address just a P.O. box. I asked if they were going to be at the next show and she didn't know...I think the radiator was only like $165...didn't look as good as the Griffin ones but still pretty good.
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19686
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 09-11-2001 12:24 PM
Two things: 1) You get what you pay for so buyer beware. 2) The only thing better than cubic inches is MORE CUBIC INCHES! ------------------
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289u4ea
Journeyman Posts: 41
From: Pleasanton, CA
Registered: May 2000
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posted 09-11-2001 06:50 PM
I agree you must be cautious.
What do you guys think about the contents of the kit? Are the parts any good? Any experinece with Triton Engineering?FORD 331 STROKER KIT
Triton Engineering's Ford 331 Stroker will increase your 302/5.0L to 331 cubic inches at .030. This kit is for use with 1970-96 302 Blocks with 1 or 2 piece rear main seals and Stock valve Configuration heads. You must use a 28oz. Damper and Flex Plate / Flywheel Combination (1980 and Earlier). Kit Includes: -Triton Engineering Nodular 3.250 Stroke, Lightweight, Knife-Edged Crank. -Triton Engineering 4340 Forged I-Beam 5.400 Long Rods, with 3/8" ARP 8740 Cap Screws, Doweled Cap and Bronze Bushings. -Keith Black (KB) Flat Top Hypereutectic Pistons. ( Optional Kit Components are Listed Below ) - (53310) - Retail is $1,155.00
$825.00
Thanks
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