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steve'66
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posted 08-24-2001 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK,

Got the 164 tooth flywheel into the Lakewood scattershield. The old starter wont fit, even in the outside holes. So which starter should I get? As long as we're changing it it might as well be a newer style "mini". Which Ford v-8 windsor engined trucks used 11" clutches and modern starters? Thanks guys, gotta buy this Saturday, it's ready to go in in the morning.

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Doc
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posted 08-24-2001 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doc   Click Here to Email Doc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you can't find one in time I have a new Tilton 3 bolt for the 164 tooth wheel, just get one to replace it soon and you can have this one.

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n2oMike
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posted 08-24-2001 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for n2oMike   Click Here to Email n2oMike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I use a 164 tooth flywheel, and there is a manual starter and an automatic unit. You CANNOT use an automatic starter with the manual tranny... but I *believe* you can use a manual tranny with the automatic.

I tried to re-use the automatic starter when I changed my car over to a 4-speed back in high school. I believe the nose housing on the starter would hit the flywheel. Whatever it was, it wouldn't work. I also tried a later model starter at one time... and it didn't withdrawl the bendix (starter) gear back far enough when you let off the key. When the engine started, it spun that poor (expensive!) starter into oblivion! Luckily, the parts store took it back.

You might try a 60's-70's era manual tranny small block starter.

Good Luck!

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Dave_C
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posted 08-24-2001 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave_C   Click Here to Email Dave_C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On your car I would look at a multi-position racing starter. Mine is a Powermaster. The particular model of mine is no longer made, but the units from CVR are identical. Several racing buddies of mine use them. Spins my 13:1 engine over w no problems now for 3 years. They adjust to 9 different mounnting positions to clear headers, block, pan, etc. Price is not too bad. $160 from Jegs. Rebuilt Ford Mini starters run in this same price range + core charge. Plus the Ford starters only mount in one position. The nose piece is not an issue on this starter. There isn't one.

Take a look:
http://www.cvrproducts.com/auto.html#anchor1665030

Later,

David Cole

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steve'66
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posted 08-24-2001 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the quick responses everone!
I'm hoping to find an "modern" off the shelf unit in the morning. But you know what the "modern" parts man needs, Make, model, year, engine, tranny, w or w/o a/c etc! LOL I'm thinking of a 1988 F-150 5.0 5spd p/u for a starter. But I'm not sure they used a 164 tooth flywheel. This engine really doesn't need a hi-torque starter at 10-1 compression and the distributor isn't "locked". But the weight savings from the modern starter might offset some of the weight gain of the Lakewood scattersheild.

Thanks again!

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bluestreek
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posted 08-24-2001 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestreek   Click Here to Email bluestreek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My '78 300 cu. in. 6 cyl truck uses 11" flywheel, clutch, and pressure plate.. I think most 300 cu in 6 cyl trucks w/manual are the same..
Good luck

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steve'66
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posted 08-25-2001 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK,

Got one for a '93 Lightning, that fits like a glove. Thanks everyone!


SteveW

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