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65_289
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posted 07-23-2001 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65_289   Click Here to Email 65_289     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is an idea I am kicking around for getting the stang ready for the track.

CE 3-way front drag shocks
Rancho RS9000 %-way rears
Keep my current 5-leaf springs
SSM Lift bars.

You guys/girls think this setup could cut some good times? If not, lemme hear some criticism.

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1965 Coupe, Tremec 3550, Steeda Tri-Ax, Cable Clutch conversion, 3.25 gears, Ford XB3 longblock, x303 heads, B-Cam, 9:1 comp., Ford Racing high-torque starter, Mallory coil & electronic ignition, Accel 8.8mm wires, 600 cfm Edelbrock carb, Edelbrock RPM intake, K&N air, Holley electric fuel pump & AFPR, dual 2-chamber Flowmasters, KYB shocks, 5-leaf springs, Chrome Export Brace, Griffen Radiator, Comp. Eng. subs.

Pertronix Ignitor & coil, new distributor, and fuel pressure guage being installed now...

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Doc
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From: Redwood City, Ca. USA
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posted 07-24-2001 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doc   Click Here to Email Doc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like nobody has any criticism on your combo. Are you looking for guesses on how quick/fast you might run?

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Dave_C
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posted 07-24-2001 06:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave_C   Click Here to Email Dave_C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Before my back-half I had the same shocks on my 69 with Cal-Tracs. But my leaf springs were 30 yr old originals.

Best time on 28X10 slicks was a 7.10 @ 98 (1/8 mile) with a 1.54 60ft time. That was with my 383W/C-6 on motor only at 3150 lbs.

The CE front shocks are ok for the $, but not the best out there. You will really like the Rancho's. Set them soft for the ride to the track, then they go go very stiff with a turn of the knob. BTW, the exact part # for the Rancho's on an early Mustang is # 9204.

Later,

David Cole

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65_289
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posted 07-25-2001 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65_289   Click Here to Email 65_289     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doc:
Looks like nobody has any criticism on your combo. Are you looking for guesses on how quick/fast you might run?

I have no idea how fast I will go. I am hoping, after a locker, either 3.80 or 4.11 gears, slicks, and suspension, with the mods in my sig, to go 12.99 or better.

Hey Dave, are there any adjustable shocks for the front that are better than the CE?

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1965 Coupe, Tremec 3550, Steeda Tri-Ax, Cable Clutch conversion, 3.25 gears, Ford XB3 longblock, x303 heads, B-Cam, 9:1 comp., Ford Racing high-torque starter, Mallory coil & electronic ignition, Accel 8.8mm wires, 600 cfm Edelbrock carb, Edelbrock RPM intake, K&N air, Holley electric fuel pump & AFPR, dual 2-chamber Flowmasters, KYB shocks, 5-leaf springs, Chrome Export Brace, Griffen Radiator, Comp. Eng. subs.

Pertronix Ignitor & coil, new distributor, and fuel pressure guage being installed now...

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65_289
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posted 07-25-2001 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65_289   Click Here to Email 65_289     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW, I thought about Cal-Tracs. BUT:

A) They are $200 more than most bars

B) They look hard to install

If they are worth it, I may look into them. But I don't know if they are worth $320...

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1965 Coupe, Tremec 3550, Steeda Tri-Ax, Cable Clutch conversion, 3.25 gears, Ford XB3 longblock, x303 heads, B-Cam, 9:1 comp., Ford Racing high-torque starter, Mallory coil & electronic ignition, Accel 8.8mm wires, 600 cfm Edelbrock carb, Edelbrock RPM intake, K&N air, Holley electric fuel pump & AFPR, dual 2-chamber Flowmasters, KYB shocks, 5-leaf springs, Chrome Export Brace, Griffen Radiator, Comp. Eng. subs.

Pertronix Ignitor & coil, new distributor, and fuel pressure guage being installed now...

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Big_blocker
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From: On a rock in the pacific (Hawaii)
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posted 07-25-2001 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big_blocker   Click Here to Email Big_blocker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like a good 12 second set up to me. What size Tire ?
quote:
Originally posted by 65_289:
Here is an idea I am kicking around for getting the stang ready for the track.

CE 3-way front drag shocks
Rancho RS9000 %-way rears
Keep my current 5-leaf springs
SSM Lift bars.

You guys/girls think this setup could cut some good times? If not, lemme hear some criticism.


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Drink gas haul a$$ American Racing

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65_289
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posted 07-25-2001 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65_289   Click Here to Email 65_289     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Big_blocker:
Sounds like a good 12 second set up to me. What size Tire ?

Thinking about 26x8.5x15 ET Drag slicks for the rear.

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1965 Coupe, Tremec 3550, Steeda Tri-Ax, Cable Clutch conversion, 3.25 gears, Ford XB3 longblock, x303 heads, B-Cam, 9:1 comp., Ford Racing high-torque starter, Mallory coil & electronic ignition, Accel 8.8mm wires, 600 cfm Edelbrock carb, Edelbrock RPM intake, K&N air, Holley electric fuel pump & AFPR, dual 2-chamber Flowmasters, KYB shocks, 5-leaf springs, Chrome Export Brace, Griffen Radiator, Comp. Eng. subs.

Pertronix Ignitor & coil, new distributor, and fuel pressure guage being installed now...

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Dave_C
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posted 07-23-2001 02:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave_C   Click Here to Email Dave_C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Cal Tracs are $$, but there is a reason. The rod ends alone would cost you $120+. They are high quality chrome moly rod ends. The bars themselves are also chrome moly and then powder coated.

Not that bad to install. Only hard part is getting the spring eye bolts out and then getting the rubber bushing/steel sleeve out of the spring eye. I spent the better part of a Saturday installing them.

Now my opinion: Where they shine is on a 11 sec. car. A 12-13-14 sec car can do just as well with slapper bars.

Most 10 sec cars won't see much of an improvement (it's all ready working good enough to get 10 sec times) My car was low 7's (11.0's) when I put them on. Didn't see anything really as far as et improvement, but it became much more consistent from run to run.

They are some SS cars running 9's and 10'[s on them, but those cars are totally optimized everywhere else in the suspension and they are running on nation event prepped tracks.

So, if you can run deep into the 11's they are worth it, faster cars are better off with a ladder bar or 4-link setup. Slower cars should save their money, buy some $100 slappers and spend the money elsewhere.

The HAL or Koni shocks for the front would be better, but they are not cheap at $125+ each.

Later,

David Cole

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65_289
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posted 07-23-2001 05:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65_289   Click Here to Email 65_289     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dave_C:
...The HAL or Koni shocks for the front would be better, but they are not cheap at $125+ each.

Later,

David Cole
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I emailed HAL, and they only make a shock for the rear of a 65 stang. Koni's are expensive, but adjustable. The question is, can they be adjusted close to a 90/10 or 80/20 ratio?

Thanks everyone, for your excellent help!!


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1965 Coupe, Tremec 3550, Steeda Tri-Ax, Cable Clutch conversion, 3.25 gears, Ford XB3 longblock, x303 heads, B-Cam, 9:1 comp., Ford Racing high-torque starter, Mallory coil & electronic ignition, Accel 8.8mm wires, 600 cfm Edelbrock carb, Edelbrock RPM intake, K&N air, Holley electric fuel pump & AFPR, dual 2-chamber Flowmasters, KYB shocks, 5-leaf springs, Chrome Export Brace, Griffen Radiator, Comp. Eng. subs.

Pertronix Ignitor & coil, new distributor, and fuel pressure guage being installed now...

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