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Topic: Gears??
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Fastymz Moderator Posts: 9095 From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 07-14-2001 03:56 AM
What gears would you say would help my combo out the most.I'm looking to go faster in 1/4 and not has worried about daily driving.Althogh the track is 1hour away so it needs to able to make there.I was thinking of 3:80to4:11.And would you do gears 1st or a posi type unit 1st.Cant afford both now.Or should I just start looking for a 9" and dump the 8".------------------ 65 coupe with a stock 1969 351w,RPM intake,carter625cfm,shorty hedmen hedders,black magic electric fan,stock C4,peg leg 8" 2:80,Boss 429 hood scoop.
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Ryan Wilke Gearhead Posts: 1115 From: Stanton, Michigan 49707 Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 07-14-2001 10:58 AM
Ron, Sounds like you've got a sweet package there! Depending on what your cash flow is and what level of performance you eventually want will determine which way to go now. For instance, if your plan is to eventually build this into a Street-Stormer or Racer, then I'd recommend you start shopping for a 9" rearend - it's a much stronger piece and parts are more available than for a 8". But if this is your only car and you need to drive it everywhere / everyday, then I'd locate an 8" traction-lock differential for sure, and step up to a 3:50 or more gear to get you into your engine's power band. Good Luck! Ryan
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bluestreek Gearhead Posts: 1086 From: Athens,GA Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 07-14-2001 11:15 AM
Give us a little info on your cam specs, tire& wheel size, and your current 1/4 mile baseline..Unless your 351W is anemic, I would say that you are already smoking the back tires at the touch of the throttle..Since you're running 2.80 gear, open differential, and a stock converter, you can start by upgrading to some traction devices. Anything above 3.25 gear will just make traction matters worse.. I would say a 9" posi rear, good traction bars, and a stall converter would be good for starters. Your gear selection will depend on what rpm range the engine likes to pull and whether or not you're going to stay with the 8" rear.. My original 8" rear started loosening up fast when I started hitting it hard at the track and I didn't want to spend any money on a cheapo 8" rearend, so I went shopping for a 9".
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steve'66 Gearhead Posts: 5659 From: Sonoma,CA,USA Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 07-14-2001 05:45 PM
Ron,Locate a narrow 9" housing from a 57-58 Ford or Edsel wagon, and find a center section from an early Bronco w/4.11 gears and trac-lock. It's the easiest and cheapest way to go. The 4.11 gear will be perfect up to about 112mph in the quarter at 6000 rpm. If your stock 351 won't pull 6000, then it'll still top out at it's rpm peak. Maybe 100 mph @ 5200 rpm or so. The gears will grow with the engine in other words. SteveW
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66351stang Gearhead Posts: 666 From: sayville,newyork Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 07-14-2001 09:59 PM
hey there fastymz, i was reading your post and noticed you have a similar set as mine, i have a 66 coupe with a 357 in it, finaly just finished it up and saw you have shortie hedders on it, so do i, what king of exhaust did you rune and did you have to have custom work for the shortie hedders(meaning coming off the collectors) that is the only thing i have left is the exhaust, i would like to run 2" pipe and also have the gt tips, and rear valance..------------------ ponycar66,have you flown in a ford latley??????? 66-COUPE W/351SVO glad i had a v-8 !!!!!! 84.5 gt350-61 falcon 302 have a great day!!!!!!!!
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Fastymz Moderator Posts: 9095 From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 07-14-2001 09:14 AM
Thanks all I can tell already this is the site for me.66351stang.The heddmen headers bolt right in.I had a local exhuast shop do the rest.I have 2-1/4 pipe with an H-pipe and turn donws at the axle with 3chamber flowmasters.The shop had no problems with the collectors lining up.And the turn downs look sweat from behind the car.About gears my car is not my only driver its just for fun.I'll keep on making more into a street strip car all I can the faster the better.But power is only good if I can get it to hookup.I'm not into the burn out thing.I just want it to go while the other guy is burning them off.Most my racing will be done on the street.And yes it's TOPGUN at Fallon raceway.Have not had this car out there yet.Thanks agian and keep it coming.Ron
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steve'66 Gearhead Posts: 5659 From: Sonoma,CA,USA Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 07-14-2001 09:15 AM
ponycar,I'd run 2 1/2" exhaust, at least 2 1/4". Have a freind that put a new 430 hp chevy crate 350 in his '67 camaro and his 1/4 mile mph and et did not improve over his old 327! Then we had a w/e race where he was allowed to run open headers, and the car jumped 8 mph in the 1/4 mile over his 2" dual exhaust. He's installing a 2 1/2" exhaust system now. SteveW
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Fastymz Moderator Posts: 9095 From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 07-14-2001 10:14 AM
I second the 2.5 or 2.25 pipes fords need all the help they can get on the exhuast side.I'd also do an H-pipe or X-pipe on it too.------------------ 65 coupe with a stock 1969 351w,RPM intake,carter625cfm,shorty hedmen hedders,black magic electric fan,stock C4,peg leg 8" 2:80,Boss 429 hood scoop.
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steve'66 Gearhead Posts: 5659 From: Sonoma,CA,USA Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 07-14-2001 11:21 AM
Ron,In the old days (early '70s) we street raced on Edison Way. It was nicely lit and had the 1/4 mi marked off. Is it still that way? SteveW
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Fastymz Moderator Posts: 9095 From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 07-15-2001 07:39 PM
Thats great Steve I too remember Edison way and no it's not the same.The road is run down still has the lights.And it has fadded marks on it.They have three differant area's now that they race on.The 70's were great for street racing the fines were not has big and the cops were not as fast to get there.I mainly race were ever I can find some one to race.To scared of getting a ticket.Thats cool that you remember Edisonway.I'm 36 now so I remember the late 70's on in to the 80's.Which was all BFR.[BEFORE RICERS]Ron.------------------ 65 coupe with a stock 1969 351w,RPM intake,carter625cfm,shorty hedmen hedders,black magic electric fan,stock C4,peg leg 8" 2:80,Boss 429 hood scoop.
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TomP Gearhead Posts: 4637 From: Delta BC Canada Registered: Dec 99
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posted 07-15-2001 08:48 PM
forget the 8" ...with a 351 you are dumping money down the toilet on something you'll later break.A 9" or adapting a late model 8.8 are better bets.
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