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Ken&Shell
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posted 06-11-2001 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken&Shell   Click Here to Email Ken&Shell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How often do you guys change the oil in your race cars? I have friends at the track who change every 2 races. I think they are nuts. Do they know something I don't or are they just keeping the oil crisis going?

Just askin

Shell
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Moneymaker
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posted 06-12-2001 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Every 12 to 15 passes on all 3 cars.

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69maverick
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posted 06-12-2001 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69maverick   Click Here to Email 69maverick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used to drag a 58 K-frame harley that ran on Nitro! The oil had to be changed every run!! When you run a real high performance
setup the motor is setup a little looser than your every day setup,atleast thats the way we did it in the 70's ! And Nitro gets passed the rings more than you would think,
and the oil was wasted!

P.S. 9.1 - 9.2 @145 MPH on a 1958 HOG! WOW was I dumb when I was 19!! or what?

Speed rated tires what were they??

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SG236
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posted 06-12-2001 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SG236   Click Here to Email SG236     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Every 12 passes oil and dual filters! My 351-C lasted for 8 years and the bearings were still clean.


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TomP
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posted 06-12-2001 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sheeesh.... keeping the arabs and bearings happy!!

I change mine once every blue moon...i think about 50 passes unless something breaks

The gear oil in the tranny and rear end has been there for ages 150+ runs

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posted 06-12-2001 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Arabs do not grow synthetic oil Tomp!

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Ken&Shell
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posted 06-17-2001 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken&Shell   Click Here to Email Ken&Shell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That was my next question Alex, Are you running Synthetic? But looks like you answered it before I asked it. Presently we don't run synthetic but we're looking at all options right now. Should we switch??

I am also curious if you could give me a Short lesson on spark plugs. Some guys at the track talk about 'hot' plugs or 'cool' plugs and I have no idea what the he!! they're talking about. I don't like to look stupid so could you clue me in..

Shell
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Moneymaker
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posted 06-18-2001 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Royal Purple synthetic oil for racing. None better! Hotter plugs have the electrode porcelin deeper in the plug housing. Colder plugs protrude out more. The rule of thumb is the higher the RPM and compression, the colder the plug. Confused more now? lol

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Ken&Shell
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posted 06-18-2001 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken&Shell   Click Here to Email Ken&Shell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Confused more now? lol


Well,,,,,He!! Yeah I'm confused more now.. lol

Let me send you what I am running now and you tell me where to go from there. How's that?

Shell

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Moneymaker
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posted 06-18-2001 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, let us have it.

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Ken&Shell
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posted 06-19-2001 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken&Shell   Click Here to Email Ken&Shell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The plugs in the motor are BSF-42C.

I am trying to go through everything and make improvements where I can.

What fuel do you run??

Thanks so much for your help. One of these days I am going to catch you in the hot tub and then I can really ask a ton of questions.

Thanks
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posted 06-19-2001 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Terrible plug choice guys. Way too hot and it is a suppressor to boot. BF-32 Motorcraft gapped at .035 is the correct plug for you. We like to use VP-C-12 or Union 76 110 stock brand fuel.

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Ken&Shell
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posted 06-21-2001 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken&Shell   Click Here to Email Ken&Shell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alex, You are a doll. The plugs we were using were stock for a 351w for 69 yr model.

In my most southern drawl,,,, Thank you Darlin'

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Moneymaker
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posted 06-21-2001 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your welcome. It twern't nothin'!

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Ken&Shell
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posted 06-25-2001 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken&Shell   Click Here to Email Ken&Shell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alex, You're not gonna believe this, but I stopped in to the local Ford dealer Sat morning to get my plugs. They of course had to get them for me Monday. I pick them up today on my lunch break, didn't bother to look at them. I get home, open the box, and realize they gave me the wrong ones. They gave me BF-42C Heck, that's closer to what I got than to what you told me to get. Right? ARGH!! Sometimes I hate ordering parts as a woman because they look at you like you're some stupid little blond (no offense to any blonds we may have here) and say "Honey, are you sure that's what you want? What kind of car is this going into?" I thought I was gonna have to slap someone. I just smile and say "It's going in my race car, honey?" So, I need to take them back. Do you guys have this same problem or is it just a curse us females have?

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TomP
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posted 06-25-2001 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shell

Yep i get that too... and i'm not even blonde. "Oh this will work" is the usual comment when i point out its wrong.

I seem to have trouble getting the BF32 plugs nowadays.

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Ken&Shell
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posted 06-25-2001 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken&Shell   Click Here to Email Ken&Shell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Tom, I'm not blond either. Where do you usually get your plugs.? Our autozone carries motorcraft but when I went there, the guy was a real jerk. I gave him the number and he tried to crossreference in his computer. It came up nothing. So he starts the usual crap, What kind of car is it in? I said, That's totally irrelevant because I don't believe they ever put a 351W in a 83 capri. He actually rolled his eyes. and said well what year is the motor. I said, You know I know what plugs I need, Either go look on the shelf for them or I will take my business elsewhere. He walked his sorry self back to the back, was gone maybe a minute and said we don't have em. I said, Figures,, and left. ken just laughed at me and said I had to much of my mom in me.

I said, No, Not enough or I would have reached across the counter and slapped him.
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posted 06-26-2001 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We stock ALL of the performance Motorcraft spark plugs. Let me know if you still have any trouble finding any and I'll send you some. NAPA stores can usually order them as a FoMoCo dealer, but you have already tried the dealer route. I would first call the parts manger and complain. They should replace them at no charge and then deleiver them to you!

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posted 06-26-2001 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken&Shell   Click Here to Email Ken&Shell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
I would first call the parts manger and complain. They should replace them at no charge and then deleiver them to you!


I called the dealer this morning and he says that they are no longer available and they are superseded by the ones he gave me BF42C

I am sending you an email so I can get some from you. Call me and I'll exchange info with you. thanks alex..

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69maverick
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posted 06-26-2001 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69maverick   Click Here to Email 69maverick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know what the difference is in the motorcraft FL-1A oil filter and the FL-1HP besides the 8 bucks?

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posted 06-26-2001 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A ton! The relief valve is heavier, the overall constuction is of a heavier metal, 8 holes, thicker gasket, more and better paper.

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posted 06-26-2001 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lawless   Click Here to Email lawless     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's the easiest way I have found to "fool" the autozone parts guy/gal into getting me motorcraft bf-32's. Tell him/her you need spark plugs for a 68 mustang, 428 cj. He/she can put that into their computer and come up with bf-32's every time.

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posted 06-27-2001 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69maverick   Click Here to Email 69maverick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK I will bite why do I want the bf-32's?

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Originally posted by lawless:
Here's the easiest way I have found to "fool" the autozone parts guy/gal into getting me motorcraft bf-32's. Tell him/her you need spark plugs for a 68 mustang, 428 cj. He/she can put that into their computer and come up with bf-32's every time.


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Rustang351c
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posted 06-27-2001 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rustang351c   Click Here to Email Rustang351c     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lawless, will these 428 plugs fit a 351c? Are all plugs the same size?
Alex, would this bf32 still be the right plug for a 11:1 351c? I was gonna order some NGK's?
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posted 06-27-2001 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BF-32's are 18mm and AF-32's are 14mm. YOu want AF-32's for a 351C.

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posted 06-27-2001 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for R&J MOTORSPORTS   Click Here to Email R&J MOTORSPORTS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While we are on the subject of spark plugs,I need help also.I have a 306 w/TFS high ports,13.5:1 with a .668 roller.I am running the VP C-12,auto w'3000# car.This is a street/strip car. Any help would be greatly appreciated, Thanx, Joe

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posted 06-27-2001 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What plug are you currently using Joe?

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posted 06-27-2001 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for R&J MOTORSPORTS   Click Here to Email R&J MOTORSPORTS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alex, Autolite 3924. I haven't actually had it out to the track yet. Joe

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posted 06-28-2001 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AGSP-32C Motorcraft will also work.

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posted 06-28-2001 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for R&J MOTORSPORTS   Click Here to Email R&J MOTORSPORTS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanx,Alex. How about the gap? I am running all MSD (6Al box,and MSD Distributor)

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posted 06-29-2001 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for R&J MOTORSPORTS   Click Here to Email R&J MOTORSPORTS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Alex, For some reason my last post did not update. I'll try again.I am running MSD ignition, 6AL box and Billet distributor.I am wondering about the gap,what would be best for those plugs? Thanx, Joe

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posted 07-02-2001 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
.035 max!

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posted 07-03-2001 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for R&J MOTORSPORTS   Click Here to Email R&J MOTORSPORTS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THANX, ALEX!

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