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Clevo377
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posted 05-13-2001 02:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Clevo377   Click Here to Email Clevo377     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm partially filling my cleveland block and have the Moroso block filler available here. Has anyone used it and if so how have they found it?

Paul

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Moneymaker
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posted 05-14-2001 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's OK. I like the Hard Block product better myself. The Moroso stuff will erode and break up over a few years. Hard Block lasts FOREVER!

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Clevo377
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posted 05-14-2001 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Clevo377   Click Here to Email Clevo377     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where is "Hard Block" available? Can I source it here in Australia?

Thanks

Paul.

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Moneymaker
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posted 05-14-2001 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is sold through most speed shops world wide or they can ship you direct Paul. They have a website.

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Big_blocker
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posted 05-15-2001 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big_blocker   Click Here to Email Big_blocker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I seen Block filler for sale before but what does it do and how does it work ?

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Clevo377
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posted 05-15-2001 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Clevo377   Click Here to Email Clevo377     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have not used it before but as I understand you mix it with water and pour it into the water jacket of your block. It sets and provides additional strength for the cylinder walls as well as providing a better ring seal.

Alex, do you have the URL for "Hard Block"??

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Paul

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Clevo377
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posted 05-15-2001 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Clevo377   Click Here to Email Clevo377     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, forgot to ask...how do you position the block if filling it to the water pump holes? Or do they explain this on the website?

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Paul

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Clevo377
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posted 05-16-2001 06:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Clevo377   Click Here to Email Clevo377     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hard Block is hard to find....where are they?

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Moneymaker
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posted 05-16-2001 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll go look for the website right now Paul.

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sprtcpe63
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posted 05-16-2001 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sprtcpe63   Click Here to Email sprtcpe63     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
try www.hardblok.com is this the site?

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Rustang1
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posted 05-16-2001 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rustang1   Click Here to Email Rustang1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One comment on Hard Block or any filler. I was told that the machining must be done AFTER the filler is poured in.

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Big_blocker
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posted 05-16-2001 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big_blocker   Click Here to Email Big_blocker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could I use this on a street/strip engine ?

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Ryan Wilke
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posted 05-16-2001 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke   Click Here to Email Ryan Wilke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, that's the stuff, sprtcpe63.
You have to keep the block level so it flows evenly across. If you let your engine just hang on your engine stand, tilting down in front, the filler will not flow across evenly. Some folks fill them up to the bottom of the water pump outlets while others fill them up to the bottom of the freeze plugs (which isn't much). Some folks tap on the block to help move it to the back of the block or use a small dia. rod to push it into the back. Make sure you clean the outside of your block of any spillage. The more water you use, the easier it is to pour and fill in, but the longer it'll take to 'set up'. Be aware, if you fill above the block coolant drain or freeze plugs, neither will serve their purpose any longer. You can however, drill and tap and install an Allen head plug just above the fill level to allow you to drain the coolant. If you're building a cruiser motor, not a race motor, do you really want to add the 25 to 35 lbs. of extra weight to your engine?

I'd check with your machine shop guy before you do it - cause like you said, some guys like to put it in before and some after boring/machining...and you probably want to do what he would stand behind & recommend you do. Good Luck! Ryan

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Moneymaker
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posted 05-16-2001 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's the place. H&H specialties. According to their information you can install it before or after machining. I like to do it before. You can use it n a S&S engine. We do it all of the time with an adequate radiator.

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Clevo377
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posted 05-17-2001 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Clevo377   Click Here to Email Clevo377     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you all very much for your input. I'm chasing the "Hard Blok" guys now for a distributor in Aus.

Paul

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Clevo377
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posted 05-25-2001 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Clevo377   Click Here to Email Clevo377     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Their e-mail is bouncing and they have not returned my call...what gives?? Is there another way to get this stuff??

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Big_blocker
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posted 05-28-2001 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big_blocker   Click Here to Email Big_blocker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey try JEG'S I seen it in there catalog. Should be easy to get it from them.
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Originally posted by Clevo377:
Their e-mail is bouncing and they have not returned my call...what gives?? Is there another way to get this stuff??

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Clevo377
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posted 05-29-2001 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Clevo377   Click Here to Email Clevo377     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks,
I found a supplier here in Australia. A$140 including freight for the large pack.

When filling the block how do you position it??

Paul

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