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Mike_R
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From: Indianapolis, IN 46237
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posted 05-10-2001 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike_R   Click Here to Email Mike_R     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Guys,

This is a great site and I've posted a few oppinions, but I guess this is my first official question.

I have a 70 Torino Cobra 460 4 speed. It's a street car that sees the track occasionally. It's pretty much a stock bodied car (4050# w/driver) and the drivetrain and suspension is fairly stock too with the exception of some traction devices. Anyhow I've gotten to the point where when I race it, it runs 11's and I'd like to set it up so I can run 10's so it's time for me to get serious and start upgrading some things (starting with a roll bar).

But to get to the point, what type of driveshaft yoke, etc. do you run or at least what would you recommend for my car? I'd like to run aluminum for light weight, but I'd imagine that will not be sturdy enough with my heftly weight. Thanks.

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Moneymaker
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posted 05-10-2001 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A race style aluminum drive shaft is the best way to go for not only strength, but ET. Call Chicago Driveline at 1-708-385-1900. They do all of our shafts. They also do UPS and Visa/MC.

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Doc
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posted 05-10-2001 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doc   Click Here to Email Doc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought aluminum was weaker too, till I started looking into the subject. It's quite a bit stronger while still being much lighter, it's the way to go, but get it from a known supplier like Alex suggests, there are horror stories out there. The guy that does ours has some ugly stuff in the corner from other makers.

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Mike_R
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posted 05-11-2001 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike_R   Click Here to Email Mike_R     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks alot guys. Alex, I'll give them a call. If I can use aluminum I'll be a happy camper.

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Ryan Wilke
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posted 05-11-2001 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke   Click Here to Email Ryan Wilke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm confused.....
Mike_R, were you asking about only the driveshaft yoke or the driveshaft tube?
Ryan

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Doc
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posted 05-11-2001 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doc   Click Here to Email Doc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I imagined a comma between driveshaft and yoke . I run Mark Williams yokes but I would use other name brands as well. I know people that run stock yokes and have no failures but since I've spit the whole drivetrain out a piece at a time I figure better safe than cleanup.

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Ryan Wilke
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posted 05-11-2001 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke   Click Here to Email Ryan Wilke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for clearing that up for me, Doc
I guess it's time for me to get some dinner. I should'a figured that one out....
Ryan

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Mike_R
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posted 05-11-2001 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike_R   Click Here to Email Mike_R     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks guys, Yes there should have been a comma between driveshaft and yoke. My typing is clumsy.

Well a bit of info for anyone interested. I contacted Chicago driveline about a driveshaft. They said really my car was too heavy for aluminum to hold up well. He suggested anything over 3000 lbs was pushing it with aluminum so I really need steel. This is one of the many perks I get for driving a two ton car I guess (HA).

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Ryan Wilke
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posted 05-12-2001 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke   Click Here to Email Ryan Wilke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike_R:
2cents worth for-your-consideration::::::: I had VALLEY TRUCK PARTS, INC. of Grand Rapids, MI build my driveshaft ($145) Anyway, they told me that due to racing application (7000+RPM), the tube should be 3.5" diameter, 0.083" steel wall tube - that it needs that much mass to allow it to keep it's balance at that RPM. Balance shouldn't be off more than 0.005 (I'm not sure on the units here - ounces maybe?). Their chart said that would work for a 3200# car making 700 HP. Thus, it should still be good when I step up to a BB, which you already have.

In addition, when running a manual or stick car, allow 1" - 1.5" of in/out movement at the front yoke at the trans. I thought of going with beefy 1350 series spicer yokes, but decided I wanted the U-joint to be my "weakest link", so I stayed with the 1310 U-joints. Some say the greaseless U-joints are the strongest, that the U-joints with a grease zert in the 'cross' makes them weak; I decided on going with the style that has the zert in the cap head - not in the cross (I didn't want to have to disassemble it just to grease it).

Lastly, don't forget to install it "in phase".

Mine been fine for 2yrs in my 3300# Toploader SBF '69 Stang on a 9" slick....
Ryan

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