Brought to you in part by:

.

Shop Eastwood for your Auto Restoration Needs!


  Mustangsandmore Forums
  Ford Racing
  460 question

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq | search

UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   460 question
SG236
Gearhead

Posts: 359
From: Jasper, TN, USA
Registered: Dec 2000

posted 05-04-2001 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SG236   Click Here to Email SG236     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could someone let me know what a stock 460, 4-bolt is worth. Serial starts with DIVE I beleive.


Thanks

------------------
Russ Hood
70s Maverick S/Pro

IP: Logged

Gary
Gearhead

Posts: 725
From: Sarasota, Fla. USA
Registered: Jun 99

posted 05-05-2001 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gary   Click Here to Email Gary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ford never built 4 bolt 460. But take a SCJ 429 with 4 bolt mains, install a 460 crank, you then will have a stroked 429 to 460 cid.

IP: Logged

SG236
Gearhead

Posts: 359
From: Jasper, TN, USA
Registered: Dec 2000

posted 05-05-2001 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SG236   Click Here to Email SG236     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Gary,

I haven't ever heard of a 460 4 bolt myself. A guy in town said he had a 460 4 - blot he would sell. I'm interested in buying the 460 to build a 514.


Thanks

------------------
Russ Hood
70s Maverick S/Pro

IP: Logged

SG236
Gearhead

Posts: 359
From: Jasper, TN, USA
Registered: Dec 2000

posted 05-05-2001 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SG236   Click Here to Email SG236     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know where I can check the serial number to identify the engine cid?


Thanks

IP: Logged

Gary
Gearhead

Posts: 725
From: Sarasota, Fla. USA
Registered: Jun 99

posted 05-06-2001 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gary   Click Here to Email Gary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll look for my list of casting numbers and let you know, it's been awhile since I built mine or looked for a engine to remember all the numbers. If you can see the the crank, I believe a 2Y or 3Y is the 460. Mine was a 2y but now have a Scat 4.300 with 6.800 Eagle rods and .060 and JE's (528cid.)There was alot of blocks that had a raised 460 cast in the front of the block above the oil filter housing but that doesn't mean it is a 460 BTW---- Reason unknown.
Really if you find a good 385 series block it doesn't matter as you will probably be changing the rods/pistons and crank anyway. It's not really worth off-setting a stock cast crank when there's so many different cranks and kits available these days. You can build a 499-514-528-532-557 for the same price, I had to pick the 528 as I had core shift in one hole and +.060 was as far as I would trust going, + I wanted to keep the CR down without having grand canyon dished pistons and losing good flame travel going bigger. ALWAYS have the block sonic checked before ordering a kit or boring it out! I don't care what anyone else says, never bore and build a stroker without checking the 385 series block, these are thin wall blocks to keep the weight down and prone to core shift, it's worth the 50.00-60.00 bucks having it done, problem with that is you will only know after you have bought an engine unless the seller has already done it but bailed out of the project. Generally, the early blocks have thicker casting. BTW a 2 bolt block with ARP main studs/bolts is all you should need, but finding a 4 bolt SCJ block would be better of course if lucky to find one cheap enough. Happy hunting

IP: Logged

SG236
Gearhead

Posts: 359
From: Jasper, TN, USA
Registered: Dec 2000

posted 05-06-2001 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SG236   Click Here to Email SG236     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gary,

Thanx for the loads of info. I have always had my stuff done by an engine shop. This time I'll just get the engine shop to do the machine work and I'm gonna try the rest. I like the idea of a 528ci engine and right now interested in going that direction.

Thanx for the help and I'll call on you in the future if that's ok.

------------------
Russ Hood
70s Maverick S/Pro

IP: Logged

Gary
Gearhead

Posts: 725
From: Sarasota, Fla. USA
Registered: Jun 99

posted 05-06-2001 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gary   Click Here to Email Gary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Russ, try www.flatlanderracing.com for kits or www.enginesystems.com

IP: Logged

SG236
Gearhead

Posts: 359
From: Jasper, TN, USA
Registered: Dec 2000

posted 05-07-2001 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SG236   Click Here to Email SG236     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gary,

Thanks for the sites! Once I get the car repainted and re-wired I should be ready to go with the 528 or 532. What type of heads do you use and has the SCAT crank held up very well?


------------------
Russ Hood
70s Maverick S/Pro

IP: Logged

DidgeyTrucker
Gearhead

Posts: 977
From: Greenbrier, TN USA
Registered: Oct 99

posted 05-07-2001 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DidgeyTrucker   Click Here to Email DidgeyTrucker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've read recently an article that states Ford made 4 bolt 460 blocks for trucks in the late 70's.

Tracy

IP: Logged

Gary
Gearhead

Posts: 725
From: Sarasota, Fla. USA
Registered: Jun 99

posted 05-07-2001 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gary   Click Here to Email Gary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thats a new one to me-humm? Maybe what your refering to is a 370ci truck engine? If this is the case and there is a 4 bolt 460 version Im hitting the bone yards tomarrow to try find a couple. Of all iv'e read Iv'e never seen one available.
More info please as to what exact year/s and type truck/s they put them in if you have that info to share.
Thanks

IP: Logged

TomP
Gearhead

Posts: 4780
From: Delta BC Canada
Registered: Dec 99

posted 05-07-2001 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
first i've hear of it...but a 370 wouldn't do you a fat lot of good...they need a 1/4" overbore just to be a 460 again!

Maybe a 429 heavy truck engine or a marine 460 motor,those use a wacky combination of parts!

Tom

IP: Logged

jkilroy
Gearhead

Posts: 1703
From: Vicksburg, MS
Registered: Dec 99

posted 05-08-2001 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jkilroy   Click Here to Email jkilroy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you *must* have a 4 bolt block then just buy some caps from Engine Systems and have them fit to your 2-bolt block. Any 429/460 block can be fit with them.

Personally I don't think it is required unless you are going over 700hp. Some quality studs and the factory caps should be fine.

Just to let everyone know I am pretty sure that all 429/460 blocks have 460 cast into them.

Engine systems also sells two and four bolt cores, no idea on the price, but I bet the four bolts are double the twos.

------------------
Jay Kilroy
68' Fastback GT 390
"No such thing as a cam thats too big"

IP: Logged

DidgeyTrucker
Gearhead

Posts: 977
From: Greenbrier, TN USA
Registered: Oct 99

posted 05-12-2001 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DidgeyTrucker   Click Here to Email DidgeyTrucker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gary:
More info please as to what exact year/s and type truck/s they put them in if you have that info to share.
Thanks

That's all the article said - truck 460's.

Tracy

IP: Logged

All times are ET (US)

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Mustangsandmore Front Page

Copyright 2003, Steve LaRiviere. All Rights Reserved.


Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.47d

Amazon Honor System Click Here to Pay Learn More

[Build a free Mustangsandmore.ws Home Page!]

[About M&M][Acronyms][Calendar][Chat][Classifieds] [Links] [Members' Pics] [M&M Mug Shots] [Tech] [ Mustangsandmore.com Bookstore] [Advertise on Mustangsandmore.com] [Mustangsandmore.com T-Shirts]