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Topic: 460 question
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SG236
Gearhead Posts: 359
From: Jasper, TN, USA
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 05-04-2001 04:25 PM
   
Could someone let me know what a stock 460, 4-bolt is worth. Serial starts with DIVE I beleive.
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Russ Hood
70s Maverick S/Pro
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Gary
Gearhead Posts: 725
From: Sarasota, Fla. USA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 05-05-2001 06:27 AM
Ford never built 4 bolt 460. But take a SCJ 429 with 4 bolt mains, install a 460 crank, you then will have a stroked 429 to 460 cid.
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SG236
Gearhead Posts: 359
From: Jasper, TN, USA
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 05-05-2001 09:56 PM
Thanks Gary, I haven't ever heard of a 460 4 bolt myself. A guy in town said he had a 460 4 - blot he would sell. I'm interested in buying the 460 to build a 514.
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Russ Hood
70s Maverick S/Pro
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SG236
Gearhead Posts: 359
From: Jasper, TN, USA
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 05-05-2001 10:09 PM
Does anyone know where I can check the serial number to identify the engine cid?
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Gary
Gearhead Posts: 725
From: Sarasota, Fla. USA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 05-06-2001 07:40 AM
I'll look for my list of casting numbers and let you know, it's been awhile since I built mine or looked for a engine to remember all the numbers. If you can see the the crank, I believe a 2Y or 3Y is the 460. Mine was a 2y but now have a Scat 4.300 with 6.800 Eagle rods and .060 and JE's (528cid.)There was alot of blocks that had a raised 460 cast in the front of the block above the oil filter housing but that doesn't mean it is a 460 BTW---- Reason unknown.
Really if you find a good 385 series block it doesn't matter as you will probably be changing the rods/pistons and crank anyway. It's not really worth off-setting a stock cast crank when there's so many different cranks and kits available these days. You can build a 499-514-528-532-557 for the same price, I had to pick the 528 as I had core shift in one hole and +.060 was as far as I would trust going, + I wanted to keep the CR down without having grand canyon dished pistons and losing good flame travel going bigger. ALWAYS have the block sonic checked before ordering a kit or boring it out! I don't care what anyone else says, never bore and build a stroker without checking the 385 series block, these are thin wall blocks to keep the weight down and prone to core shift, it's worth the 50.00-60.00 bucks having it done, problem with that is you will only know after you have bought an engine unless the seller has already done it but bailed out of the project. Generally, the early blocks have thicker casting. BTW a 2 bolt block with ARP main studs/bolts is all you should need, but finding a 4 bolt SCJ block would be better of course if lucky to find one cheap enough. Happy hunting 
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SG236
Gearhead Posts: 359
From: Jasper, TN, USA
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 05-06-2001 12:30 PM
Gary, Thanx for the loads of info. I have always had my stuff done by an engine shop. This time I'll just get the engine shop to do the machine work and I'm gonna try the rest. I like the idea of a 528ci engine and right now interested in going that direction. Thanx for the help and I'll call on you in the future if that's ok. ------------------
Russ Hood
70s Maverick S/Pro
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Gary
Gearhead Posts: 725
From: Sarasota, Fla. USA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 05-06-2001 05:45 PM
Russ, try www.flatlanderracing.com for kits or www.enginesystems.com
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SG236
Gearhead Posts: 359
From: Jasper, TN, USA
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 05-07-2001 09:18 AM
Gary, Thanks for the sites! Once I get the car repainted and re-wired I should be ready to go with the 528 or 532. What type of heads do you use and has the SCAT crank held up very well?
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Russ Hood
70s Maverick S/Pro
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DidgeyTrucker
Gearhead Posts: 977
From: Greenbrier, TN USA
Registered: Oct 99
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posted 05-07-2001 05:08 PM
I've read recently an article that states Ford made 4 bolt 460 blocks for trucks in the late 70's.Tracy
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Gary
Gearhead Posts: 725
From: Sarasota, Fla. USA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 05-07-2001 05:36 PM
Thats a new one to me-humm? Maybe what your refering to is a 370ci truck engine? If this is the case and there is a 4 bolt 460 version Im hitting the bone yards tomarrow to try find a couple. Of all iv'e read Iv'e never seen one available.
More info please as to what exact year/s and type truck/s they put them in if you have that info to share.
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TomP
Gearhead Posts: 4780
From: Delta BC Canada
Registered: Dec 99
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posted 05-07-2001 08:09 PM
first i've hear of it...but a 370 wouldn't do you a fat lot of good...they need a 1/4" overbore just to be a 460 again!Maybe a 429 heavy truck engine or a marine 460 motor,those use a wacky combination of parts! Tom
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jkilroy
Gearhead Posts: 1703
From: Vicksburg, MS
Registered: Dec 99
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posted 05-08-2001 08:51 AM
If you *must* have a 4 bolt block then just buy some caps from Engine Systems and have them fit to your 2-bolt block. Any 429/460 block can be fit with them.Personally I don't think it is required unless you are going over 700hp. Some quality studs and the factory caps should be fine. Just to let everyone know I am pretty sure that all 429/460 blocks have 460 cast into them. Engine systems also sells two and four bolt cores, no idea on the price, but I bet the four bolts are double the twos. ------------------
Jay Kilroy
68' Fastback GT 390
"No such thing as a cam thats too big"
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DidgeyTrucker
Gearhead Posts: 977
From: Greenbrier, TN USA
Registered: Oct 99
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posted 05-12-2001 11:05 PM
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Originally posted by Gary:
More info please as to what exact year/s and type truck/s they put them in if you have that info to share.
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That's all the article said - truck 460's. Tracy
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