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Topic: MSD rpm chips
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Dave_C Gearhead Posts: 1123 From: Gadsden, Al Registered: Aug 99
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posted 03-03-2001 05:40 PM
A while back someone talked about making their own MSD chips using a Radio Shack adjustable resistor.Since an MSD rpm chip is nothing more than a resistor in a fancy plastic case with two prongs, all you would need to know is the resistance value for each rpm level. I just bought two adjustable chips. Not the Radio Shack type, ones already in a case. There are made by Shiftnoid (electric shifter company) and are sold by Jegs. they have a small screw in one end and adjust all the way from 0-12,000 rpm. Problem is that the screw has no scale on it. It comes set at 6000 and for every 1/4 turn of the screw it moves the rpm level by 100. Would be easy to get lost if you didn't know what the chip was set at. Also would be easy to lose count of the 1/4 turns if making a large adjustment. I figured it would be easier and more accurate to set it by measuring the resistance. Borrowed a friend's chips and measured both his and mine. Used my digital multimeter set on the 20K ohm scale. Feel free to copy the list and I would appreciate it if anyone has any numbers to add. Would really appreciate those numbers below 4000. I use the lower chips in my MSD two step to control starting line rpm in my drag car. RPM Resistance 3000 1.91 3400 2.21 4000 2.70 4600 3.21 5000 3.58 5200 3.77 5400 3.95 5600 4.16 5800 4.35 6000 4.57 6300 4.88 6500 5.10 6600 5.20 6700 5.32 6800 5.43 6900 5.55 7000 5.65 7400 6.12 7600 6.38 7800 6.63 8000 6.89 8600 7.69 8800 7.97 9000 8.27 It appears the scale is .10-.11 for every 100 rpm for most of the range, but is closer together below 4000 and wider apart at the top end of the range. Also may be some variance in the chips themselves. Example: I checked 3 different 6600 rpm chips . Resistance of 5.19, 5.20, 5.21. Later, David Cole
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steve'66 Gearhead Posts: 9835 From: Sonoma,CA,USA Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 03-03-2001 08:15 PM
That's great info David! Hopefully this thread will take off and will be archived! I only have a 3000 and 5500-6500 chips for the auto-meter shift light. I'll measure their resistance if anyone is interested in auto-meter chips. SteveW [This message has been edited by steve'66 (edited 03-03-2001).]
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Dave_C Gearhead Posts: 1123 From: Gadsden, Al Registered: Aug 99
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posted 03-03-2001 08:31 PM
Sure! Post them. The Auto-meter chips and the MSD chips are interchangeable. You can use use MSD chips in your shift light. You can also use the Shiftnoid adjustable chip like I just bought. The rpms are supposed to be the same. Would be interesting to compare what you have to the ones that I have already checked to see if they are the same. Later, David Cole
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steve'66 Gearhead Posts: 9835 From: Sonoma,CA,USA Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 03-03-2001 09:19 PM
Ok David,They are pretty close; 3000 = 1.871 k ohms 5600 = 4.1 k ohms 5800 = 4.3 k " 6000 = 4.5 k " 6200 = 4.71 k " 6400 = 4.93 k " SteveW
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Dave_C Gearhead Posts: 1123 From: Gadsden, Al Registered: Aug 99
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posted 03-03-2001 09:26 PM
They are close. Most are within .05. If you figure 100 rpm for every .10, that would put them within 50 rpm.Anyone else with any to add? Later, David Cole
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Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 29200 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99
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posted 03-03-2001 11:17 PM
This is wonderful information and pretty cool and all, but I really don't have the time at the track to hook up my multi meter and dial in my launch RPM point when I'm in the staging lanes. Maybe it's different for you guys/gals. I keep a hand full range of chips in the glove box and decide what launch RPM depending on the track conditions. I don't use a shift light or air shifter, so the only need that I and most high RPM racers have for the chips are the line lock burn out, launch, and high end limiter. By the way, stay away from any old style triple zero chips in your high limiter as they will cause a untracable high RPM miss. ------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member Fleet of FoMoCo products Moneymaker Bio US Class Nationals link
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Dave_C Gearhead Posts: 1123 From: Gadsden, Al Registered: Aug 99
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posted 03-04-2001 12:06 AM
I don't change anything in the staging lanes either. Remember, I'm a bracket racer. I change nothing between rounds. I want each run to be identical to the run before. I am making the list so I can set the chips beforehand and do some test and tune with them. Once I get a complete list I'm going to print it out and then tape it inside the lid of my tool box. That way if I want a 4400 rpm leave I can set it before the first time run. Since I am starting from scatch with the Two Step I didn't want to go buy several packs of chips to find where I want to be. Once I find that spot it'll stay there. Alex, you mentioned "old style triple zero chips". I assume you mean 6000, 7000, 8000, etc. What is the diff between old style and new style? Not that it maters I have the top limiter at 7600, shift light at 6800. The two step is new, so I'll have to play with what the car likes to leave at during a test n tune as soon as the weather breaks. So much rain here I saw a frog wearing a life vest today. Later, David Cole
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Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 29200 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99
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posted 03-04-2001 12:37 AM
David, the older chips can be identified by a raised lip around the perimeter of the top of the chip. The later chips are flush all of the way down the sides up to where the prongs protrude. ------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member Fleet of FoMoCo products Moneymaker Bio US Class Nationals link
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F551 Gearhead Posts: 284 From: Manitoba, Canada Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 03-04-2001 12:48 PM
Alex - thanks for clearing up old vs. new chips. Any of you guys use the "MSD Module Selector"? My brother has one - loves it - no goofing with chips. About the only time we change a chip is if something is happening ie tires / traction go away. ------------------ Fred 68 Mustang 500CID/Powerglide - "No Tubs" 86 Mustang GT Cobra
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Butch Jennings Gearhead Posts: 637 From: No. California Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 03-04-2001 12:54 PM
I use the Module Selector on the low side of my 2-step....I love it too, never had a problem with it. Thanks Alex, I wasn't aware of a problem with the triple zero chips....I'll keep that in mind. Butch ------------------ Butcher's Home Page
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Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 29200 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99
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posted 03-04-2001 02:05 PM
Actually I forgot that we have converted two of the three cars to Holley Pro Annihaltor systems. DUH! (blonde moment) We will be installing one in MM this week. No more chips at all! Everything is done through a hand held programer. Launch, burnout, and top end limiter. Very cool! Anyone interested in a MSD 7AL-3 and billet dist with crank trigger? ------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member Fleet of FoMoCo products Moneymaker Bio US Class Nationals link [This message has been edited by Moneymaker (edited 03-04-2001).]
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