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Bob Hopkins
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From: BRIDGEPORT NJ USA
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posted 01-12-2001 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Hopkins   Click Here to Email Bob Hopkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok guys picked up this 68 falcon wagon last milininum 289" c-4 since the cold weather,acting up sits over night takes 3-4 minutes in gear to actavate the warp, drive and move. After that works normal { other than slowest 2-3 shift} i have ever felt. changed fluid and filter screen,no debris in pan. Retorqued the intermidit band ,checked the vacumn modular ,its holds vacumn and the rod is in place, seemes to me a sticky valve in the valve body??? give me your ideas???

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 01-12-2001 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you nailed it. Could also be a slight warpage between valve body and transmission, or leaky valve body gasket.

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Bob Hopkins
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posted 01-12-2001 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Hopkins   Click Here to Email Bob Hopkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
recomend a replacement street/strip valvebody??? this thing must have set some ware for awile spedo read only 71000, and looking at the bottem side I think it's close it' beautiful

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 01-12-2001 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd just put a Trans-Go shift kit in it and give the valve body a good cleaning.

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TomP
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posted 01-12-2001 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I say give the automatic the heave-ho and replace it with a stick!

But what little i know (and care even less) about automatics makes me think its more likely hardened seals causing it. A whole tranny overhaul with all new clutch plates and bands should probably be done if you are taking it out and apart anyways. The parts kit doesnt cost much ,tranny shops can do the rebuild in a few short hours... don't ask me why it always costs $1200 for them to do the job

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66351stang
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posted 01-14-2001 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66351stang   Click Here to Email 66351stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
c-4 are noted for internal seal problems when cold,car sits overnight and the seal contract allowing the fluid to pass them causing low pressure, after the trans warmes up the seals expand and the car will move.
recomend replacing seals ,at the same time replace any worn parts.just my experience over the years.

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Bob Hopkins
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posted 01-15-2001 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Hopkins   Click Here to Email Bob Hopkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like Tom P idea the best be a fun ride with a 5/ speed tremack, out of my budgit for now

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TomP
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posted 01-15-2001 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bob

ya dont need a 5 speed, a toploader or T10 would work fine...the C4 doesnt have an overdrive?

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Moneymaker
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posted 01-15-2001 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you pull the valve body to install a shift kit inspect the unit for flatness. C-4 valve bodies have a tendancy to warp. You can block them back to life.

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Bob Hopkins
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posted 01-16-2001 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Hopkins   Click Here to Email Bob Hopkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
APPRICATE THE IDEAS, GOING TO HAVE TO GIT SOME WARMER THIS IS A DRIVEWAY CAR, THE 57 IS ON STANDS KEEPING WARM IN THE GARAGE

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Bob Hopkins
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posted 01-16-2001 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Hopkins   Click Here to Email Bob Hopkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is the difference between 68-69 valve body and 70 -up I find kits for 70-up

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