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Dave Witthoeft
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From: IL.
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posted 03-11-2006 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Witthoeft        Reply w/Quote
http://photos.mustangsbymike.com/Shop/P1002305

If only it would fit in my yard and my budget.

I like the lay out.

What do you guys think??

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trashline
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From: Levittown, Pa
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posted 03-11-2006 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trashline        Reply w/Quote
tell you what that guy has everything, oven for powder coating, sand blaster, car lift. must be nice. Im not a big fan of the white walls though and where are the cars?

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exlocal
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From: hacienda hts., CA, USA
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posted 03-11-2006 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for exlocal        Reply w/Quote
Geez, that's bigger than my condo!

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Dave Witthoeft
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posted 03-11-2006 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Witthoeft        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by trashline:
tell you what that guy has everything, oven for powder coating, sand blaster, car lift. must be nice. Im not a big fan of the white walls though and where are the cars?


I painted my little shop walls white. Makes it brighter so I can see better.

TomP
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From: Delta BC Canada
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posted 03-12-2006 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP        Reply w/Quote
I'd be dangerous if i had half that much space. I have as much stuff in a 12' x 35' area along with two Fairlanes!

capri man
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posted 03-12-2006 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for capri man        Reply w/Quote
what, no frige for the beer!!! trophys??? i only saw one!!

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kwazykat
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posted 03-12-2006 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kwazykat        Reply w/Quote
the walls look like vapor barrier to cover insulation ..... wonder if that is the best that can be done since the structure is metal .... i sure would find some plywood and sheet metal screws and box that baby in to support some wall shelving ....

however ....

i would love to have that much square footage available for a garage - mostly for the workspace we need with our gazillion projects at the kv&kk compound!!! yes my eyes are green.... with envy!! heh heh


kk

Big D
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posted 03-12-2006 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big D        Reply w/Quote
Dave..

Buy it and petition off the one end for an apartment..

Nice Place..

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Bob429
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posted 03-12-2006 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob429        Reply w/Quote
What about the plans for the Rotisserie in one of the other albums. This guy has it all together. Awesome!!!

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63Kcode
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From: Anna Tx
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posted 03-12-2006 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 63Kcode        Reply w/Quote
I sold him some parts awhile back seams like areally nice guy. Here is some shots of his current project [url] http://photos.mustangsbymike.com/Mach-1-Candy-Apple-Red?page=1[/url]

66HIPO&more
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From: SLC, UT
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posted 03-12-2006 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66HIPO&more        Reply w/Quote
Nice garage. Also great assortment of ponies. Are they all his or ones he has worked on?

Have any of you checked out garagejunkies.net?
Fun too look at all the other garages. Some extreme garages to the average two car space. Lots of cool car collections too.

J.

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Ryan Wilke
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Posts: 3237
From: Stanton, Michigan, zip 48888
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posted 03-12-2006 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke        Reply w/Quote
Disclaimer: Don't get me wrong - This is a beautiful garage and I'd love to have one like it. However, in a "dream garage" situation, I'd make the following changes:

First thing: I agree with kk, the vinyl sheeting-over-fiberglass batting on the walls NEEDS to be covered; if for no other reason than just for the fire protection issue - that stuff would go up in flames QUICK if there was to ever be a cutting torch operated inside there or a few sparks from the grinder were to get over to the base of the walls... ...the fire would go right thru the vinyl & up the insulation before you knew what was happening - yes, it would go right up behind the stuff sitting along the walls.... not a good situation!

If the budget allowed, (in a dream garage there is ALWAYS enough budget, right!?) I'd install 5/8" plywood along the walls (8' high) to attach shelving, hangers etc. and then paint the plywood light gray (the gray wouldn't show the dust/dirt like white would). Then the 4' above that (12' ceilings, right?) & the ceiling I'd cover with white sheet metal. The metal sheeting wouldn't be affected by high humid summer days & car-washing moisture, would clean off easily (air wand, broom, or even water hose), it would reflect lots of light, etc. The painted plywood and the metal sheeting would be MUCH less apt to burn from sparks/fire!

I would rather of installed insulated overhead garage doors. Those doors appear to be single skin & will likely draw condensation (sweat) in the wintertime when the heat is operating inside. I also like garage doors with small (4" tall) windows in the middle panel.

Eventhough they'd need to be cleaned twice/year (due to the nearby trees), I'd also install some eves trough along the front roof line to keep the door openings free of "eve splash" from water off the roof edge.

Another thing I always thought would be a nice feature to have in my "DREAM GARAGE" would be a gambrel-type roof that would allow for a walkup attic storage space. There never seems to be enough storage space and small/light (easily carried up the stairs) stuff could be stored up there on shelving. The desk with the parts reference books, various catalogs and small frig could also go up there with a nice window at the end of the building for continuous natural light.

Rather than the hanging warm-air heater, I would rather have a radient heat system installed in the concrete floor and two feet outside the overhead doors (to keep the eve line outside the doors ice-free and dry). If you've ever been in a building with radient heat, you know what I'm talking about. If the floor is kept warm, EVERYTHING stays warm and dry. It's much quieter and no dust. Yes, that would require a small boiler to operate the radient heat (hot water system),,,which I'd want in a small "mechanical shed" adjacent, but separate, building ( for fire protection & insurance reasons). I'd also have the air compressor located in that mechanical shed too.

Of course, it would be air-conditioned, but if for some reason the 'dream garage budget' didn't allow for that expense, I'd have a 2' fan mounted at each end wall at the roof peak, one pushing and one pulling air into/out of the space. They would move the heat out during the dog days of summer, or any stink that may occur from parts cleaning, painting or such. Of course, the fans would need to be fitted with loovers to keep the rain out & screens to keep the bugs out and wired to allow variable rpm speeds.

Yeah.... That's my dream garage... Sigh...

Ok, back to reality.
So I've got a tent with dirt floor for a garage now, I can dream, can't I?

Ryan

Ryan Wilke
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From: Stanton, Michigan, zip 48888
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posted 03-12-2006 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 63Kcode:
Here is some shots of his current project [url] ]http://photos.mustangsbymike.com/Mach-1-Candy-Apple-Red?page=1[/URL]

DANG! HE'S SURE DOING A NICE JOB ON THAT '69!!

(I see from the pics that he now has insulated the overhead doors... )

Ryan

73trials
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posted 03-12-2006 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 73trials        Reply w/Quote
Yeah, that'd do...

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Big D
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From: WELLS, NEVADA USA
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posted 03-12-2006 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big D        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ryan Wilke:

First thing: I agree with kk, the vinyl sheeting-over-fiberglass batting on the walls NEEDS to be covered; if for no other reason than just for the fire protection issue - that stuff would go up in flames QUICK if there was to ever be a cutting torch operated inside there or a few sparks from the grinder were to get over to the base of the walls... ...the fire would go right thru the vinyl & up the insulation before you knew what was happening - yes, it would go right up behind the stuff sitting along the walls.... not a good situation!


Ryan


Ryan..

Vinyl Covered Insulation a pretty much a norm for Large Metal Building.. It isn't a fire hazard at all.. The vinyl does work as a vapor barrier keeping the insulation from getting damp from inside and it also is airbarrier keep air leakage from the outside..

Beside the fiberglass insulation isn't going to burn up.. It was the old foam walls that use to go up in smoke..

BUt,, it would be nice to (and expensive) to cover the walls.. You could always just cover the area you want to hang tools..

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 03-12-2006 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere        Reply w/Quote
That is a well outfitted shop, but I agree those plastic walls will get old and tattered fast. I love the sheetrocked walls in my shop.

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sigtauenus
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Posts: 3969
From: Va Beach
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posted 03-13-2006 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sigtauenus        Reply w/Quote
Anybody else notice the floor drain in his middle bay? Can't have that in many cities unless you have a sump with oil seperator/recovery system.

How about the PVC plumbing for the air compressor. I've done that myself, but would definitely go black iron or copper in the "dream garage". Too many horror stories of PVC exploding...

I'm a light freak. Always got to have lots of light when I'm working on anything. My dream garage has florescent lighting in the floor on one of the bays with heavy glass or plastic covers. Ideally inside the width of the wheels so as not to be load bearing but not down the center either.

I can't believe nobody else noticed this last item? Where's the toilet? He's got a seprate workshop no house in site? I guess for guys you can step outside and hit the wall or a tree, but for the grrrls or if you have a real greaser percolating, you need to be able to sit down NOW, and not worry about having to wash your hands first before you go getting grease on the pearly white porcelain inside the house. My dream garage has a urinal right against the back wall, right out in the open, and a separate bathroom with toilet and magazine shelves.

Ryan Wilke
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Posts: 3237
From: Stanton, Michigan, zip 48888
Registered: Oct 2000

posted 03-13-2006 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke        Reply w/Quote
Floor drain:
I'd guess that the floor drain is piped to a dry well (such as a buried 55 gallon drum with the bottom cut out and gravel/stone in the bottom and around it) and not piped to any central sewer system.

Restroom:
Yep, in a dream garage, a stool & urnial would be nice as well. But practically speaking, I walk to the house if I had to take a dump or behind a tree to whizz...


Piping:
Darn good catch on the PVC air lines!! Yep, that pipe WILL explode like genades in due time.... I'd have 1" black iron feed lines reduced down to 1/2" for drops, with another 60-gallon resevoir tank at the other end of the shop for additional air volume.

Lift Lites:
Back in the day, before car lifts were as available as they are now, I had an uncle that had a garage "pit" to be able to work on cars. He had a shielded 8'flouresent light mounted in the pit that would light the underside of a vehicle like it was daylight!
He also had a 110V plug & air line tap in the pit as well. It had a vertical ladder built in at one end, it was 6ft deep with a wooden box in the bottom to stand on & move around as needed. Funny, the bottom of the pit seemed to 'attract' bolts, nuts, tools and such, and if it wasn't shovel/cleaned out every month it would get NASTY in the bottom with gunk, weld slag, gasket scrappings, etc..

Ryan

deathtoricers
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Posts: 377
From: Ft Bragg NC
Registered: Jun 2005

posted 03-13-2006 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deathtoricers        Reply w/Quote
I used to work with a guy back home who races... Focus's.... he's got a riceified Focus that actually can haul medium a$$. At least it's a ford right? anyhow.. that kinda looks like the shop he has.. I believe it's him and his Father that run a garage together. Lucky guy anyhow.. my age and already owns his own business.

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