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Kellxr7
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From: Canada
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posted 07-12-2006 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kellxr7        Reply w/Quote
I am getting confused with all the different paint protection products out there & looking things up lately on the net, if I were to to a "proper paint protection" process, It almost seems like Id need 15 different bottles, the paint job I am looking to protect & shine up is on a "black" truck, 2 years old, & -slightly- scratched/swirled. Basically I want to protect it & make it look the best that it can & can anyone suggest a combo wax/polish to get some noticable results? (without having to rub 15 different waxes into it? lol) I dont mind putting the elbow grease into it, but just dont want to waste my money (or polishing arm) on products that arent neccessary. also is it worth the money to spend the extra cash on brand names like Zaino brothers?

[This message has been edited by Kellxr7 (edited 07-12-2006).]

Blacksmith
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From: Front Royal, Va., USA
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posted 07-13-2006 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blacksmith        Reply w/Quote
Meguire's Gold Class wax leaves a fantastic shine on my Black pony. They also make several scratch & swirl removers.

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honeyburst
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From: Nashville, TN, USA
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posted 07-13-2006 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for honeyburst        Reply w/Quote
I use the Meguires "4 step" process...yes, it's 4 bottles, but I use the complete series only a couple of times a year....for touchups, I just use the clearcoat polish or Meguires Liquid Gold

Blacksmith
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posted 07-13-2006 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blacksmith        Reply w/Quote
Their Final inspection works really well for "touch-ups".

prostreeter
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From: littleton,co
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posted 07-13-2006 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for prostreeter        Reply w/Quote
You'll definitly get a different answer from each who responds to this post.In my opinion the best wax/polish on the market is Meguires Tech Wax.It's not cheap at 17.00 a bottle but outperforms any polish I've ever seen.

Blacksmith
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posted 07-13-2006 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blacksmith        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by prostreeter:
Meguires Tech Wax.It's not cheap at 17.00 a bottle but outperforms any polish I've ever seen.

How well does it work for removing light swirl scratches in clearcoat???

V8 Thumper
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From: Phoenix, Arizona
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posted 07-13-2006 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Blacksmith:
How well does it work for removing light swirl scratches in clearcoat???


You'd need a multi-step process to remove swirls and scratches properly. Begin with an abrasive compound, then a polish, then a wax (followed by an optional glaze). It takes alot of time, not to mention practice to get it right. Power tools definetely speed the process, but it's not hard to get carried away especially with an abrasive on a wool bonnet. That combo has a very aggressive 'cut' and can smoke right through clearcoat and into the basecoat if you're not careful, especially on corners or edges.

Lots of elbow grease

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http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/V8Thumper.html

prostreeter
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From: littleton,co
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posted 07-13-2006 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for prostreeter        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Blacksmith:
How well does it work for removing light swirl scratches in clearcoat???


The new Tech Wax works flawlessly when used with an orbital buffer with very lite pressure.That's one of the things that sold me on it.

Blacksmith
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From: Front Royal, Va., USA
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posted 07-13-2006 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blacksmith        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by V8 Thumper:
but it's not hard to get carried away especially with an abrasive on a wool bonnet. That combo has a very aggressive 'cut' and can smoke right through clearcoat and into the basecoat if you're not careful, especially on corners or edges.

Maybe I should take it somewhere to see if the Pro's can do it w/o charging an arm or a leg. The fiberglass hood is the worse...And I can pretty much say I WOULD get carried away & screw it up using power tools...

Elbow grease can't do too much damage in comparison???

Thanks.
I'll have to get me some & try the elbow grease method first.

Kellxr7
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posted 07-13-2006 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kellxr7        Reply w/Quote
After some more research I am getting this is the main idea to get a deep mirror finish,...
-Wash,(duh)

-Paint cleaner (remove contaminants & old wax etc

-Cleaner Polish (removes scratches/swirls & creates gloss)

-Wax (protects Paint)

-Detail spray (maintain finish)

Now I have the feeling I might be missing a step or two, if anyone could fill me in, it would be appreciated, my biggest confusion on how to remove all the light scratches from the previous owner who used to wash my truck with the brush at the car wash, there are so many scratch & swirl removers, I dont have a CLUE which one to use, they are light to moderate, & to give you an idea why I am so confused as to which product I could use, here is why... http://www.m eguiars.com/estore/product_list.cfm?sectionname=Professional%20(Mirror%20Glaze%20Brand)>Auto%20Paint%20Care>Car%20Polishes>Pure%20Polishes?ionID=31401 & no clue how to narrow it down to one of thesehttp://www.meg uiars.com/estore/product_list.cfm??ionname=Professional%20(Mirror%20Glaze%20Brand)>Auto%20Paint%20Care>Paint%20Cleaners/Compounds?ionID=31301
there are so many that I dont want to get one that is too mild that wouldnt do anything, but I dont want to get one that is to harsh that will scratch the he11 out of my paint, PS, I will be using an orbital buffer, (dont worry, Ive been doing my homework on those potential devils too)

PS Honeyburst, could you tell me which exact 4 products you used? & how were the results?

Edit... those links don't work properly, basically for the paint cleaner & swirl remover polishes, it shows about a dozen of basically the same product with slight differences

[This message has been edited by Kellxr7 (edited 07-13-2006).]

Blacksmith
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From: Front Royal, Va., USA
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posted 07-14-2006 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blacksmith        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kellxr7:
[B]After some more research I am getting this is the main idea to get a deep mirror finish,...
-Wash,(duh)

-Paint cleaner (remove contaminants & old wax etc

-Cleaner Polish (removes scratches/swirls & creates gloss)

-Wax (protects Paint)

-Detail spray (maintain finish)

Now I have the feeling I might be missing a step or two


That pretty much covers it.

I washed mine once, when I bought it in Ga. & drove it to Va. last July.
Waxed after dusting it (with a California Duster) 8 times since then. Detail spray for "touch-up" when it needs it, at shows & after cruising around (After bug splatters are cleaned off with windex).
After I figure out what I'm going to do with my swirls on my hood, then it'll get waxed again...

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69 Sportsroof
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From: Valley, Alabama, USA
Registered: Mar 2002

posted 07-19-2006 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69 Sportsroof        Reply w/Quote
Mother's has a new two step process made specifically for random orbit buffers. I haven't tried it yet but am planning on doing so. It's about $9 per bottle (2) at AutoZone.

Kellxr7
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Posts: 700
From: Canada
Registered: Mar 2003

posted 07-21-2006 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kellxr7        Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the info, now another one lol. The rims on my truck I think are polished aluminum, but they seem to have a protective clear coat, any ideas how to polish these? I tryed aluminum polish but it does nothing due to the coating, which is half faded...

Kellxr7
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Posts: 700
From: Canada
Registered: Mar 2003

posted 07-27-2006 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kellxr7        Reply w/Quote
If anyone is interested, I've found what seems to be a perfect combination for a flawless finish. After the homework I did I picked up some meguired products, this is what I did (with an orbital buffer)
-Clay Bar Treatment
-Cleaner Polish #83 Meguiars
-Show Car Glaze Pure Polish #7 Meguiars
-NXT Wax (meguiars)
-Meguiars vinyl & rubber conditioner & cleaner for trim & interior detailing
& mothers aluminum polish for wheels.

Beginning to Finished product is like night and day.

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