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HHStang
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posted 07-14-2005 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HHStang        Reply w/Quote
I've heard conflictng info on how to weld in. Should I cut old stuff out and butt weld new ones in or leave some material and overlap weld? Thanks, Mike

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Mike W
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From: CA
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posted 07-14-2005 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike W        Reply w/Quote
If you have just a slight overlap, it would be easier to weld plus the overlap would almost disappear by the time you are done welding.

66fstbck
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From: Worthington, Pa. USA 16262
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posted 07-14-2005 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66fstbck        Reply w/Quote
I used the overlap method on mine and then used a body hammer to dress it up nicely underneath. I think they came out pretty nice, if i say so myself

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ddenton749
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posted 07-15-2005 08:14 AM              Reply w/Quote
I butt welded all of mine. I didn't want do leave an overlap because I felt that it would be a place for moisture to get in and start rusting again. I did all of my welds from the top so there is very little dressing/grinding to do underneath. I never thought of leaving a small overlap (1/8"), but that might leave more work underneath afterwards.

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HHStang
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From: Coastal SC, USA
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posted 07-15-2005 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HHStang        Reply w/Quote
Thanks all. Looks like a 3 to 1 overlap to butt...

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74merc
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From: Demopolis AL
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posted 07-16-2005 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 74merc        Reply w/Quote
another vote to butt.

It isn't easy, but the end result is peace of mind. If water can get in the seam it will, and it will rust. If there is no seam between steel, water can't get in there.

its a better fit when you butt it together, the overlap throws it off, but butting it in won't be perfect either. The heat stretches, draws and pushes. 3 local body shops, one for custom cars, one for antique custom cars and AutoBeauty of Alabama all butt them together. I asked before I started.

Scott H
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posted 07-16-2005 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott H        Reply w/Quote
A mixed vote.

If you are an experienced welder and confident with your cutting and fitting abilities, do the butt weld.

If you think you might measure wrong then there is a good chance you will cut too much metal and have a large gap to fill. Also it can be easy for a beginning welder to 'blow through' the edges. As you are trying to close the gaps and stick them together, you can actually widen the gaps by losing metal.

juiceman39
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From: wadsworth, Oh USA
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posted 07-16-2005 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juiceman39        Reply w/Quote
As a first time floor pan installer, I can vouch that it was not easy getting a fit well enough to butt weld-not that I could do it anyway. Mine ended up being short. The best thing I learned was screw the new pan tight to the frame rail before cutting. The floor doesnt want to fit tight to the frame without some persuasion.

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65 Wildstang
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From: Loretto,TN U.S.
Registered: May 2004

posted 07-18-2005 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65 Wildstang        Reply w/Quote
I just finished my pans a few months ago.I borrowed a crimping tool and crimped around the floor pan.It was about half a inch that was lipped.After I finished welding ,we filled the seams with all metal.If you looked under the car you wouldn't never have known the pans were put in.

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