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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 05-27-2005 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone have any experience in doing this professionally? I was wondering what type of oil is preferred, and if the hardware gets heated before application.

If anyone has any tips I'd sure like to hear them.

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mellowyellow
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posted 05-27-2005 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the real world back when our Mustangs were built, phosphate and oil finish involved a heated part with phosphate coating(??) dipped in hot oil. Don't know how they do it today but feel it wouldn't be the same. Phosphate and oil requires high maintanance to keep it looking good with no rust.

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63Kcode
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posted 05-28-2005 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 63Kcode   Click Here to Email 63Kcode     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know how professional it is but here is a part I did two or three years ago. If you want the details let me know

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 05-28-2005 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please do tell. I've done some parts and I have had success using Eastwood Oxy-Solve, but I was thinking of setting up a metal container and hot plate to get the oil into the part better.

I also have some Cosmolene I could use.

Pete, I hear what you are saying, but I plan on keeping my car pretty dry. I am amazed at some of the hardware I've pulled off my car that looks so good 35 years later you would swear it was installed last week after you clean it. I guess humidity makes all the difference.

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open
'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Hardtop 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip

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mellowyellow
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posted 05-28-2005 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Last summer, we had a lot of high humidity, rain, and of course, a "cane" or 2 or 4! LOL! You could strip a piece of metal and see brown almost instantly. Had some hood hinges in the attic and the heat of probably 1l0 or more in the summer kept them OK for years. brought one down, cleaned it up and ended up priming it with Sems metal etch primer, using a Sems metal color and dusting it with Krylon Matte Finish. It comes close, for a driver, but am sure the MCA judges could peg it. It was a saver hinge that I finally needed, and I could see that it would go to s**t if I left it bare. Years ago, took a bucket of stuff to a plater for phosphate coating. It looked beautiful, but it had to be periodically treated wih WD-40. Also had some Corvette stuff done in cad, zinc plate, etc. Same deal.

Conversely, my second Stang after getting involved in hobby, was a Phoenix 65 fastback. The natural stuff on that car was unbelievable. Am sure your Northern Ca. Mach is the same. Of course, every piece of rubber on mine was shot from the heat! LOL!

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 05-29-2005 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My car does constantly amaze me at the condition of the parts, I consider buying a California car one of the smartest things I've ever done, car wise. Especially when I compare it to my other two Mustangs that have spent their lives in Maine.

I'm not strick on the concours look, I even doubt any of my cars will ever even be entered in any show. I'm just building them for me. As an example, that hood latch and support in 63k's picture is semi-gloss black on mine, and it won't be sporting the chalk X.

What sent me down this train of thought on P+O finishing is this week I cleaned up the clips holding my brake and fuel lines, and some of them look absolutely brand new while a few of them need a little cleaning up. I think it might be cool to just oil them and toss them back on. I don't mind hitting them with some 3 in 1 every so often.

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open
'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Hardtop 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip

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