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ZRX61
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posted 01-09-2005 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ZRX61        Reply w/Quote
Already have one of those Hammerhead LX41 models from Costco & needed something a bit smaller just for my paint & body stuff. Found this on sale at PepBoys for $328 OTD:

18in deep, 56 1/2 tall & 26 1/2 wide.

capri man
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posted 01-09-2005 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capri man        Reply w/Quote
man that is a steel!!! (pun intended)")
one like that at sams club is over $600 i think.

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ZRX61
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posted 01-09-2005 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ZRX61        Reply w/Quote
The one at Sams is similar to the Hammerhead LX41 which cost me about $720 OTD about 18 months back from Costco. All these stainless boxes are coming from the same factory in Taiwan & are being sold under several brand names in the US. The manufactuer is CSPS Metals. That $720 box I got those 18 months ago now retails at over $3200 at www.hammerhead.bz
CSPS are at www.cspsmetal.com
The one I bought today has the same sliders, drawers, handles etc as the hammerhead but the welds aren't finished quite so well. It is sold under the Torin brand at PepBoys.
Costco also has the weird looking model with the sloped front

Gerry
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posted 01-18-2005 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gerry        Reply w/Quote
Very nice!

Moneymaker
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posted 01-18-2005 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker        Reply w/Quote
Everytime I see an interesting tool add from Pep Homo's I wind up getting dissapointed when I go and look at the item in person.
They have more no name, off brand, lousy warrantee crap than a flea market.
Take a look at their generators some time.
Nankota???
The company cannot even be Googled.

I won't even buy odds and ends at Pep Boys anymore. Bad parts, bad service, dirty stores, and stupid employees.


PS
I love my new ball bearing black Craftsman box.

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mellowyellow
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posted 01-18-2005 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow        Reply w/Quote
PEP HOMO'S!! ROTFLMAO!!

Moneymaker
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posted 01-18-2005 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker        Reply w/Quote
Manny, Moe, and Bruce.....

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Alex Denysenko
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First SS/MA in the TENS!
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HammerHeadSteel
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posted 01-19-2005 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HammerHeadSteel        Reply w/Quote
Just to set the record straight. HammerHead Stainless Steel Tool Chests are not manufactured by CSPS. We are the manufacturer and HammerHead tool boxes are only sold under the HammerHead trademark. It's easy to tell the difference in quality. Just check out the weight. Or 41" combo weighs in at 492 lbs, that's nearly 200 lbs more than the cheap knock offs. If you want a cheap box, buy the knock off, if you want a box that will be around as long as your 66 Mustang, buy a true HammerHead.

Regards,
HammerHead Steel

Moneymaker
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posted 01-19-2005 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker        Reply w/Quote
You tell 'em Hammerhead.
Good is not cheap and cheap is not good.

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Alex Denysenko
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NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
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First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28

The Barry of BarrysGrrl

Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 01-20-2005 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HammerHeadSteel:
Just to set the record straight. HammerHead Stainless Steel Tool Chests are not manufactured by CSPS. We are the manufacturer and HammerHead tool boxes are only sold under the HammerHead trademark. It's easy to tell the difference in quality. Just check out the weight. Or 41" combo weighs in at 492 lbs, that's nearly 200 lbs more than the cheap knock offs. If you want a cheap box, buy the knock off, if you want a box that will be around as long as your 66 Mustang, buy a true HammerHead.

Regards,
HammerHead Steel


Wow, I just checked out your web site. You have some nice boxes. Are they all made in the USA?

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'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
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N266fords
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posted 01-21-2005 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for N266fords        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Manny, Moe, and Bruce.....


Bruce HUH, Okay Wiseguy lets role...
First off I am not ofeended but just could not pass up answering this. I am no way Gay just to set the record straight..lol
BRUCE

SteveLaRiviere
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posted 01-21-2005 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere        Reply w/Quote
...and my middle name is Bruce!

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'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Hardtop 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip

N266fords
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posted 01-21-2005 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for N266fords        Reply w/Quote
Steve I knew there was a reason I liked You.

SteveLaRiviere
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posted 01-21-2005 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere        Reply w/Quote

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open
'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Hardtop 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip

ZRX61
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posted 01-23-2005 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ZRX61        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HammerHeadSteel:
Just to set the record straight. HammerHead Stainless Steel Tool Chests are not manufactured by CSPS. We are the manufacturer and HammerHead tool boxes are only sold under the HammerHead trademark.

I have the *operators manual* that came with my Hammerhead LX41 right here in front of me & on the back it says:
Hammerhead LX
CSPS Inc
17071 Green Drive.
City Of Industry, Ca 91745.

So if the Hammerhead boxes aren't made by CSPS why the hell do they have their name on your manuals??
It also states in the manual "If your Hammerhead product is defective, please call CSPS toll free at 866 701 2777"

& why would my Torin box have the EXACT same handles, castors, drawer pulls & sliders & liners etc as my Hammerhead?
This is the box from the CSPS site:

Oddly enough it's identical to my Hammerhead & just happens to also be called a LX41.
Here is the box (the exact one I have) from the Hammerhead site:

So is Hammerhead making boxes for CSPS or is CSPS making boxes for Hammerhead? CSPS has pictures of the manufacturing plant in Taiwan...

[This message has been edited by ZRX61 (edited 01-23-2005).]

SteveLaRiviere
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posted 01-23-2005 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere        Reply w/Quote
...the plot thickens!

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'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Hardtop 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip

capri man
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posted 01-23-2005 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capri man        Reply w/Quote
i think i am confused!! why is the hammerhead at costco $328 and the cheapest one on the hammerhead site is over $2000????????? am i missing something here?

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mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-302-7.33 @92mph 1/8
1.54 60 ft.


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ZRX61
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posted 01-23-2005 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ZRX61        Reply w/Quote
The Torin from PepBoys was $328, thats the tool box at the top of the thread.

As for Hammerhead:
I paid $720 for my Hammerhead LX41 from Costco in '03. At that time the same box was listed at $980 on the Hammerhead site.
Since I bought mine the dollar has gone down the crapper & the price of steel has skyrocketed.... altho I'n doubtful those 2 factors justify CSPS selling the same box at over $3200 right now.... I guess it's possible...
The only one I've seen at Costco lately is that stupid looking thing with the sloped front...

HammerHeadSteel
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posted 01-24-2005 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HammerHeadSteel        Reply w/Quote
Perhaps I didn?t make myself clear.

Several years ago we entered into a joint venture with CSPS to manufacture a ? consumer grade? tool chest, which we designed, for sale at Costco stores. After a time CSPS decided to break the agreement resulting in our loss of control over the manufacturing process and a noticeable decrease in quality (and several lawsuits). The ?stupid looking thing with the sloped front? model is an example of CSPS design. Costco also carries other SS boxes manufactured by various Chinese companies all of which were cheap copies of our original designs. Some of these have also found their way into Sam?s Club, Pep Boys ect. using various brand names.

The retail boxes on our web site are manufactured at our facilities in Malaysia and Taiwan to industrial standards. We do not intend to manufacture consumer quality boxes again. We also have facilities in the US, which manufacture specialty storage for industry. CSPS does not manufacture any of the HammerHead boxes currently sold.

If you own a box from Costco with the HammerHead mark, you have a quality consumer box at a steal of a price. However this box is not built the same as the HammerHead FX on our site. Again, the FX weighs 150lbs more than our Costco LX model and uses upgraded components. The FX quality is that of the comparable Snap On box and sells for 30% cheaper.

People who make a living with their tools know the difference. These are our customers.

HammerHead Steel

SteveLaRiviere
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posted 01-25-2005 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere        Reply w/Quote
My 30 year old Craftsman rollaway is looking better all the time.

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'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Hardtop 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip

ccode67
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posted 01-25-2005 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ccode67        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
My 30 year old Craftsman rollaway is looking better all the time.


I hear that.
I just bought another Crapsman box, the other one was overflowing, the new boxes are junky, no where near the quality of my old ones. But they will hold some stuff.

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lonewolf
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posted 01-25-2005 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lonewolf        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HammerHeadSteel:

The retail boxes on our web site are manufactured at our facilities in Malaysia and Taiwan to industrial standards. We do not intend to manufacture consumer quality boxes again. We also have facilities in the US, which manufacture specialty storage for industry. CSPS does not manufacture any of the HammerHead boxes currently sold.


HammerHead Steel


If only they were made in the US....

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 01-25-2005 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere        Reply w/Quote
Yeah, that crosses them off the list for me too.

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'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Hardtop 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip

Toonsdad
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posted 10-09-2005 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Toonsdad        Reply w/Quote
Wanna see some WAY over priced crap? Go here http://www.sharkstainless.com/ These are some very sharp looking box's but look at the price, some are over 10k, now look at the weight. I saw one of their 54" weighting not even as much as some 41" chests I have seen around. The polished ones look really sharp, but dam...7k???

Hammerhead is nice too, but also a little over priced. Saw the exact same chest they are puching...but wider, yes wider, for less at www.garage-toys.com They have a 56" 18 deep going for 1400.00 Same gauge, same steel, hydro lifts on hood. It's a very nice box. I'm buying one.

Bloose
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posted 10-14-2005 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bloose        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HammerHeadSteel:
The retail boxes on our web site are manufactured at our facilities in Malaysia and Taiwan to industrial standards.

I'll pay the extra 30% all day long to get a genuine made in the USA box. @ $2400 a pop there is no reason those couldn't be made here.

B-loose

MadMatt68
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posted 12-28-2005 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MadMatt68        Reply w/Quote
My wife just purchased the CSPS box in the picture for me at Costco. I live in Southern california. They are definately still selling them here. I know the OTD price was around $700. She compared it to the All Trade box at Sam's club and this was a much bigger box and a better deal for the $$$. I'm just a weekend home mechanic so this is plenty of box for me. I really couldnt justify $3000 or more.

Ryan Wilke
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posted 12-28-2005 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
My 30 year old Craftsman rollaway is looking better all the time.


Steve (or anyone else),

Are the Craftsman rollaway tool boxes made in the US???

Ryan

SteveLaRiviere
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posted 12-28-2005 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere        Reply w/Quote
I don't know about now. Mine is old and from the days when they weren't made anywhere else.

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blts37
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posted 01-04-2006 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blts37        Reply w/Quote
If you would like the entire history of the stainless steel tool box and the true quality of all the boxes made hit me up. I was a part of the whole start of it.

Hoosier Daddy
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posted 02-09-2006 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hoosier Daddy        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by blts37:
If you would like the entire history of the stainless steel tool box and the true quality of all the boxes made hit me up. I was a part of the whole start of it.

I'd like details... [email protected]

TonyH
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posted 05-08-2006 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TonyH        Reply w/Quote
Hi! Please send me the history also. Thanks in advance! [email protected]

blaircj69
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posted 05-29-2006 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blaircj69        Reply w/Quote
Question..
There is a discounter here that sells costco returns on these tool boxes. He keeps marking them down until they sell. There are a couple now that start at $549 and go down to 379! for the full top and bottom roller. PROBLEM- No Keys! and the top is locked open- (drawers locked- top open) and the bottom is all locked up. Any ideas? It doesnt appear it is that easy to get into the locks (which is good). Hate to drill it out- but that may be an option- but then not sure if i could release that latches. TEMPATION abounds. What say???

pmhvps
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posted 06-08-2006 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pmhvps        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by blaircj69:
Question..
There is a discounter here that sells costco returns on these tool boxes. He keeps marking them down until they sell. There are a couple now that start at $549 and go down to 379! for the full top and bottom roller. PROBLEM- No Keys! and the top is locked open- (drawers locked- top open) and the bottom is all locked up. Any ideas? It doesn't appear it is that easy to get into the locks (which is good). Hate to drill it out- but that may be an option- but then not sure if i could release that latches. TEMPTATION abounds. What say???

Keep waiting....for the price to go down more to your liking. When you do buy, hire a locksmith or drill out the locks.
Mike.

Bloose
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posted 06-26-2006 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bloose        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ryan Wilke:

Steve (or anyone else),

Are the Craftsman rollaway tool boxes made in the US???

Ryan


Last time I looked the Craftsmans were still made here. I checked about 6 months ago. For the money and the fact they are made in the US it is really hard to beat a Craftsman. I have a few of them and I really like tham a lot. None of mine are the roller drawers, I just lube the slides and they work great.

B-loose

Louis
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posted 07-18-2006 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Louis        Reply w/Quote
the quality of CSPS is not good at all. try to put some weight into the drawer, the ball-bearing slide dosen't look like it can hold 100 pound. the one you see in costco might look like a professional but it is just for show only. couple days ago i went to the costco near my house they had to replace a new (csps) since the last one crack.

I disagree if you say the one make in china is poor quality. i recently went to the Hardware show in Las Vegas. Some is very crapy while there is one company have very well built tool storage. two people(250 pound) stand on the drawer and jumping on it(not still), the tool storage still work fines

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