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lonewolf
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posted 02-09-2004 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lonewolf   Click Here to Email lonewolf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone used one of these? If so, what do you like, dislike, what to watch out for?

My wife is looking for a birthday present for me and she asked what I would want in a new helmet.

Thanks in advance,

Rick

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 02-09-2004 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After using one I'd never want to use anything else. You can actually see what you're doing before you stick an arc!

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n2oMike
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posted 02-09-2004 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for n2oMike   Click Here to Email n2oMike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A buddy of mine bought one of those Harbor Freight helmets for $50 or $60, and it works great.

It's solar powered (never needs batteries) and is solar activated. You don't even need to remember to turn the thing on. It's lightweight, (around a pound) so it doesn't weight you down. It's fairly small, so you can fit into tight places... It gets a thumbs up from me.

His was made by Western Safety.

Go to http://www.harborfreight.com and do a search for 'welding helmet'

Good Luck!

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Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
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bob emmerich
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posted 03-11-2004 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bob emmerich   Click Here to Email bob emmerich     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got one, but haven't had the pleasure of trying it(have to re-build my garage first*L*).

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pmhvps
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posted 03-16-2004 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pmhvps   Click Here to Email pmhvps     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have one,I agree.... will never go back!

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allford
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posted 12-11-2004 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for allford   Click Here to Email allford     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got an auto dimming at Harbor Freight on sale for 50.00 (solar powered and uses battery as a backup)...great improvment over non dimming..

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Dubz
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posted 12-12-2004 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the one i used was great, couldn't complain about it at all. don't remember the brand though

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 12-13-2004 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm amazed at how cheap they are now, I paid $225 for mine a few years ago. They make welding so much easier, don't even consider using any other type.

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66351stang
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posted 12-16-2004 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66351stang   Click Here to Email 66351stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have had an auto dim for 5 years works great only one problem i had and that was the battery was almost dead (didn't know it) was welding with my mig, and struck the arc and it didn't auto dim....

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Bloose
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posted 12-23-2004 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bloose   Click Here to Email Bloose     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
I'm amazed at how cheap they are now, I paid $225 for mine a few years ago. They make welding so much easier, don't even consider using any other type.


Actually many of them are still around $200 or more. One thing I've noticed is a few of the cheap ones have a pretty long reaction time, one was .5s. If you do quite a bit of welding that extra exposure to the welding arc could do some real damage. I'm just now starting to look at welding helmets but I think the reaction time is very important. I asked a welder at work about them and he put it like this. "If you eye sight is only worth $50 go for the cheapy, but my eye sight is definitely worth $200". I'd have to agree.

B-loose

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n2oMike
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posted 12-23-2004 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for n2oMike   Click Here to Email n2oMike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bloose:
One thing I've noticed is a few of the cheap ones have a pretty long reaction time, one was .5s. "If you eye sight is only worth $50 go for the cheapy,

I've heard the expression, "A $10 helmet for a $10 head." But as far has those welding helmets go....

The Harbor Freight units have reaction times around 1/20,000 second.

The 0.5 second time you are referring to is probably the 'delay'. The delay is how long it takes to switch back to the light shade after the welding arc disappears.

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Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
10.63 @ 129.3
http://www.geocities.com/carbedstangs/cmml_mburch.html
http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/healey/367
http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/moi-display.cgi?220

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Bloose
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posted 12-24-2004 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bloose   Click Here to Email Bloose     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My bad Mike, the helmet that interested me at Harbor was this one,

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=2506

Your right, it's not .5s it's .5ms. Which is still pretty slow compared to most of them. I bought a Hobart for $89 in the mean time. It has a fast reaction time but a fixed shade which kept it cheap. Also the veiwing area is fairly small. I like the Arc One's viewing area but 1/2000 of a sec may be kind of long?

B-loose

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