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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 12-02-2003 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...But I just ordered a Lincoln MIG welder LCN-K2185-1 from Summit. It was on sale for $250.

I guess I'll see.

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'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
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lonewolf
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posted 12-02-2003 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lonewolf   Click Here to Email lonewolf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That works. I have the Lincoln Weld-Pak 100 that I use as both flux core and MIG (using conversion kit) that I love to death. I do have 2 regrets though, not getting the 220V version and my power bill when I weld alot. If the welder will take it, get the large spool adapter. Nothing sucks more to be part way through a weld and run out of wire.

Now you need to build a cart and get a bottle of C25 for it. I built mine for about $50. I can snap a couple of pics and send them to you if want.

Have you MIG'd before?

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 12-02-2003 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, but it's been a while.

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open
'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
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n2oMike
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posted 12-02-2003 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for n2oMike   Click Here to Email n2oMike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You'll use it a lot more than you think! Just be sure to buy gas for it.

Good Luck!

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Mike Burch
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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 12-02-2003 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I plan to use it mostly for MIG. I'll save the flux core for stuff I don't care too much about.

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'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
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lonewolf
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posted 12-02-2003 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lonewolf   Click Here to Email lonewolf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
n20Mike hit it right on the head. I weld all sorts of stuff that you wouldn't normally think of. (repaired the kid's wagon the other night)

You will get right back in the swing when you pull the first bead. I do the same you are planning to...I use the flux core stuff for things where the steel is thicker and the weld doesn't have to be as pretty.

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S/ST1091
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posted 12-04-2003 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for S/ST1091   Click Here to Email S/ST1091     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you do any welding out of position (Vertical, horizontal or overhead) try the flux core wire with the C25 gas mixture. The gas improves the quality of the weld deposit and the slag that forms from the flux core wire will hold the weld bead in shape as it cools from a molten state.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 12-08-2003 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It arrived damaged. The reel spindle, a plastic piece of crap, was broken right off. It didn't happen in shipping either, there's nothing in the cabinet that could have broken it, it was assembled broken.

At least Summit was good about it. They got right on the phone with Lincoln and a new part is supposed to be on the way.

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open
'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip

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lonewolf
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posted 12-08-2003 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lonewolf   Click Here to Email lonewolf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I must have an older welder. The spindle for the little rolls of wire is aluminum. The bigger one I bought for the 10lb rolls is a plastic piece of crap. Haven't broken it yet, yet. When it does, I am going to have my machinist whip one up out of Al.

Cheers,

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 12-08-2003 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't you want that spindle insulated?

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open
'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
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lonewolf
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posted 12-08-2003 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lonewolf   Click Here to Email lonewolf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Never thought about it. The wire spools are plastic so I that must take care of it. The original is Al but the large spool adapter is plastic. There is a locking tab that holds the larger spool on so might have to do some engineering to make a new one work.

I never really examined the circuitry though.

Cheers,

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 12-10-2003 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I got the part.

The wrong part. Six of them, in fact.

My wife says I'm unrealistic, the way I expect people to do their job as if they had some sort of ****ing clue in their head...

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open
'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip

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V8 Thumper
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posted 12-10-2003 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Our wives must be twins LOL

I know exactally how you feel

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1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9"

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BlueMule
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posted 12-11-2003 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueMule   Click Here to Email BlueMule     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uncanny! When Diane opens something and it has missing or busted parts, she calmly takes it back and trades it in for two or more of the same thing, (to be safe) only different colors... and keeps all of them.

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-Paul

70 Mach1 351C
79 Ranchero GT
97 Expedition XLT 5.4
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V8 Thumper
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posted 12-14-2003 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Steve, did Summit ever get things sorted out?

I've been eyeing that very welder, seems like a good price for a 110v unit.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 12-14-2003 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Supposedly Lincoln is sending the correct part. Summit has been very helpful in straightening this out. Most other companies would have told us to call the manufacturers ourselves.

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open
'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
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Mike65
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posted 12-15-2003 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike65   Click Here to Email Mike65     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the Lincoln weld pak 100 in the 220v model, I love it. For a beginner welder I think it does a good job. Very easy to use.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 12-16-2003 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They smoke some good stuff there at Lincoln. I got two packages today. One looks like the part I need, and the other is a ultra-heavy duty reel spindle kit that looks like it goes to a much bigger unit than I have.

I'd install the kit, but it would probably make my MIG welder topple over.

At least they are not ignoring me.

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open
'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip

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BlueMule
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posted 12-17-2003 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueMule   Click Here to Email BlueMule     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
I'd install the kit, but it would probably make my MIG welder topple over.

At least they are not ignoring me.


Use the new welder to cobble up some out-riggers for it. Practice, practice, practice.

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-Paul

70 Mach1 351C
79 Ranchero GT
97 Expedition XLT 5.4
00 SVT f150 Lightning 4149 of 4966 Born on: 06/26/2000

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V8 Thumper
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posted 12-20-2003 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anything yet Big Kahuna?

I'm spoiled with high dollar professional welding equipment at the shop
Unfortunately, it's all 3 phase
Can't exactally plug it in just anywhere.

I'd love to have a little wire feed suitcase here at home for small projects (exhaust, brackets, sheetmetal fabrication). Once they get your deal all sorted out, and you have a chance to play, please share

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1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9"

All Blue Oval, no blue bottle
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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 12-20-2003 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't had a chance to get out there yet. I'll be sure to let you know.

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'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
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68F100
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posted 12-20-2003 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68F100   Click Here to Email 68F100     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by V8 Thumper:

I'm spoiled with high dollar professional welding equipment at the shop
Unfortunately, it's all 3 phase
Can't exactally plug it in just anywhere.



Well...there is a way to plug it in anywhere, but it's not very efficient. I can explain if ya want.

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V8 Thumper
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posted 12-22-2003 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By all means, please explain

Are you 'borrowing' a leg from the neighbor's house?

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1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9"

All Blue Oval, no blue bottle
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[This message has been edited by V8 Thumper (edited 12-22-2003).]

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mellowyellow
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posted 12-22-2003 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The fan in my Daytona 130 amp 110 v mig took a s**t yesterday. This AM took off cover and fished out 4 new copper tips that were apparently in their since new. The blade on the tiny fan spun free. Plugged it in and it works. It's Italian made. They must have missed the tips after their morning wine break!

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68F100
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posted 12-22-2003 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68F100   Click Here to Email 68F100     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by V8 Thumper:
By all means, please explain

Are you 'borrowing' a leg from the neighbor's house?


I suppose you could do that, but the neighbor might not appreciate it.

You can actually hook up a three phase motor(or whatever) with another motor and "create" a third phase. I'd have to go into more detail and probably explain with drawings. It's kind of hard to explain I guess.

They make commercially available phase converters which are more efficient than my crude method.

here's an example:

http://www.phaseconverter.com/

If you want more details, I'll try to hammer them out for you.

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hotboy1966
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posted 01-03-2004 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hotboy1966   Click Here to Email hotboy1966     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have CNC Mlll, CNC Lathe, and a Bridgeport mill in my garage all running off of a home-made phase converter. I got it in a trade from a friend of mine that built it. It is way overkill, but never misses a beat due to being overloaded.

Dave

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Dave
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