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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 35581 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 12-02-2003 02:05 PM
...But I just ordered a Lincoln MIG welder LCN-K2185-1 from Summit. It was on sale for $250.I guess I'll see. ------------------ '70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open '70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open '72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc '94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
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lonewolf Gearhead Posts: 107 From: Colorado Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 12-02-2003 02:44 PM
That works. I have the Lincoln Weld-Pak 100 that I use as both flux core and MIG (using conversion kit) that I love to death. I do have 2 regrets though, not getting the 220V version and my power bill when I weld alot. If the welder will take it, get the large spool adapter. Nothing sucks more to be part way through a weld and run out of wire.Now you need to build a cart and get a bottle of C25 for it. I built mine for about $50. I can snap a couple of pics and send them to you if want. Have you MIG'd before? lonewolf
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 35581 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 12-02-2003 03:32 PM
Yes, but it's been a while.------------------ '70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open '70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open '72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc '94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
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n2oMike Gearhead Posts: 1683 From: Spencer, WV Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 12-02-2003 03:51 PM
You'll use it a lot more than you think! Just be sure to buy gas for it. Good Luck! ------------------ Mike Burch 66 mustang real street 302 4-speed 289 heads 10.63 @ 129.3 http://www.geocities.com/carbedstangs/cmml_mburch.html http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/healey/367 http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/moi-display.cgi?220
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 35581 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 12-02-2003 03:56 PM
I plan to use it mostly for MIG. I'll save the flux core for stuff I don't care too much about.------------------ '70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open '70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open '72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc '94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
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lonewolf Gearhead Posts: 107 From: Colorado Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 12-02-2003 04:54 PM
n20Mike hit it right on the head. I weld all sorts of stuff that you wouldn't normally think of. (repaired the kid's wagon the other night)You will get right back in the swing when you pull the first bead. I do the same you are planning to...I use the flux core stuff for things where the steel is thicker and the weld doesn't have to be as pretty.
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S/ST1091 Journeyman Posts: 9 From: Halfmoon, New York Registered: Nov 2003
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posted 12-04-2003 09:58 PM
If you do any welding out of position (Vertical, horizontal or overhead) try the flux core wire with the C25 gas mixture. The gas improves the quality of the weld deposit and the slag that forms from the flux core wire will hold the weld bead in shape as it cools from a molten state.
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 35581 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 12-08-2003 07:36 PM
It arrived damaged. The reel spindle, a plastic piece of crap, was broken right off. It didn't happen in shipping either, there's nothing in the cabinet that could have broken it, it was assembled broken.At least Summit was good about it. They got right on the phone with Lincoln and a new part is supposed to be on the way. ------------------ '70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open '70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open '72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc '94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
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lonewolf Gearhead Posts: 107 From: Colorado Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 12-08-2003 08:02 PM
I must have an older welder. The spindle for the little rolls of wire is aluminum. The bigger one I bought for the 10lb rolls is a plastic piece of crap. Haven't broken it yet, yet. When it does, I am going to have my machinist whip one up out of Al.Cheers, lonewolf
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 35581 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 12-08-2003 08:31 PM
Don't you want that spindle insulated?------------------ '70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open '70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open '72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc '94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
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lonewolf Gearhead Posts: 107 From: Colorado Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 12-08-2003 09:14 PM
Never thought about it. The wire spools are plastic so I that must take care of it. The original is Al but the large spool adapter is plastic. There is a locking tab that holds the larger spool on so might have to do some engineering to make a new one work.I never really examined the circuitry though. Cheers, lonewolf
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 35581 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 12-10-2003 08:40 PM
Well, I got the part. The wrong part. Six of them, in fact. My wife says I'm unrealistic, the way I expect people to do their job as if they had some sort of ****ing clue in their head... ------------------ '70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open '70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open '72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc '94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
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V8 Thumper Gearhead Posts: 3851 From: Orange, Ca. United States of America Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 12-10-2003 08:43 PM
Our wives must be twins LOL I know exactally how you feel ------------------ 1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9" All Blue Oval, no blue bottle http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/V8Thumper.html
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BlueMule Gearhead Posts: 1140 From: Kent Island, MD USA Registered: Sep 2002
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posted 12-11-2003 10:48 AM
Uncanny! When Diane opens something and it has missing or busted parts, she calmly takes it back and trades it in for two or more of the same thing, (to be safe) only different colors... and keeps all of them. ------------------ -Paul 70 Mach1 351C 79 Ranchero GT 97 Expedition XLT 5.4 00 SVT f150 Lightning 4149 of 4966 Born on: 06/26/2000 'If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes.'
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V8 Thumper Gearhead Posts: 3851 From: Orange, Ca. United States of America Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 12-14-2003 06:09 PM
Hey Steve, did Summit ever get things sorted out? I've been eyeing that very welder, seems like a good price for a 110v unit. ------------------ 1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9" All Blue Oval, no blue bottle http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/V8Thumper.html
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 35581 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 12-14-2003 06:16 PM
Supposedly Lincoln is sending the correct part. Summit has been very helpful in straightening this out. Most other companies would have told us to call the manufacturers ourselves.------------------ '70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open '70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open '72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc '94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
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Mike65 Gearhead Posts: 1830 From: Bloomfield, NY, USA. 65 Fastback, 69 Coupe MCA #-04549 Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 12-15-2003 01:09 AM
I have the Lincoln weld pak 100 in the 220v model, I love it. For a beginner welder I think it does a good job. Very easy to use. ------------------ Mike & Robin Grentus, Owners/Innkeepers A Wolfpack Bed & Breakfast 6700 Rts-5&20 Bloomfield, NY 14469 (585)657-4863 65 Mustang Fastback 69 Mustang Coupe 99 Explorer Sport 00 Ranger XLT Extd Cab 4X4 M&M #- 890 MCA #- 4549 See us at www.wolfpack-bnb.com
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 35581 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 12-16-2003 05:51 PM
They smoke some good stuff there at Lincoln. I got two packages today. One looks like the part I need, and the other is a ultra-heavy duty reel spindle kit that looks like it goes to a much bigger unit than I have. I'd install the kit, but it would probably make my MIG welder topple over. At least they are not ignoring me. ------------------ '70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open '70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open '72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc '94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
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BlueMule Gearhead Posts: 1140 From: Kent Island, MD USA Registered: Sep 2002
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posted 12-17-2003 12:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere: I'd install the kit, but it would probably make my MIG welder topple over.At least they are not ignoring me.
Use the new welder to cobble up some out-riggers for it. Practice, practice, practice. ------------------ -Paul 70 Mach1 351C 79 Ranchero GT 97 Expedition XLT 5.4 00 SVT f150 Lightning 4149 of 4966 Born on: 06/26/2000 'If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes.'
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V8 Thumper Gearhead Posts: 3851 From: Orange, Ca. United States of America Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 12-20-2003 11:14 AM
Anything yet Big Kahuna? I'm spoiled with high dollar professional welding equipment at the shop Unfortunately, it's all 3 phase Can't exactally plug it in just anywhere. I'd love to have a little wire feed suitcase here at home for small projects (exhaust, brackets, sheetmetal fabrication). Once they get your deal all sorted out, and you have a chance to play, please share ------------------ 1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9" All Blue Oval, no blue bottle http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/V8Thumper.html
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 35581 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 12-20-2003 07:08 PM
I haven't had a chance to get out there yet. I'll be sure to let you know. ------------------ '70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open '70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open '72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc '94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
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68F100 Gearhead Posts: 2100 From: Fort Madison, Iowa USA - United We Stand Registered: Oct 99
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posted 12-20-2003 07:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by V8 Thumper:
I'm spoiled with high dollar professional welding equipment at the shop Unfortunately, it's all 3 phase Can't exactally plug it in just anywhere.
Well...there is a way to plug it in anywhere, but it's not very efficient. I can explain if ya want.
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V8 Thumper Gearhead Posts: 3851 From: Orange, Ca. United States of America Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 12-22-2003 08:24 AM
By all means, please explain Are you 'borrowing' a leg from the neighbor's house? ------------------ 1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9" All Blue Oval, no blue bottle http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/V8Thumper.html [This message has been edited by V8 Thumper (edited 12-22-2003).]
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mellowyellow Gearhead Posts: 5830 From: So. Fl. Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 12-22-2003 09:54 AM
The fan in my Daytona 130 amp 110 v mig took a s**t yesterday. This AM took off cover and fished out 4 new copper tips that were apparently in their since new. The blade on the tiny fan spun free. Plugged it in and it works. It's Italian made. They must have missed the tips after their morning wine break!
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68F100 Gearhead Posts: 2100 From: Fort Madison, Iowa USA - United We Stand Registered: Oct 99
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posted 12-22-2003 10:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by V8 Thumper: By all means, please explain Are you 'borrowing' a leg from the neighbor's house?
I suppose you could do that, but the neighbor might not appreciate it. You can actually hook up a three phase motor(or whatever) with another motor and "create" a third phase. I'd have to go into more detail and probably explain with drawings. It's kind of hard to explain I guess. They make commercially available phase converters which are more efficient than my crude method. here's an example: http://www.phaseconverter.com/ If you want more details, I'll try to hammer them out for you.
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hotboy1966 Journeyman Posts: 88 From: Everett, Wa. USA Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 01-03-2004 03:57 PM
I have CNC Mlll, CNC Lathe, and a Bridgeport mill in my garage all running off of a home-made phase converter. I got it in a trade from a friend of mine that built it. It is way overkill, but never misses a beat due to being overloaded.Dave ------------------ Dave 68 Coupe, 289, restomod in process 68 GT Fastback, resto in process 97 Cobra .vert, daily driver
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