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ShawnB
Journeyman

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From: Broken Arrow, OK , USA
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 06-09-2001 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ShawnB   Click Here to Email ShawnB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been out of the car repair game too long and I find myself confused by the new paint equipment. I also understand that the evil E.P.A. is trying to make it nearly impossible to repair our cars at home. Do the H.V.L.P. systems work any better than my old spraygun? Can anyone explain to me how the new equipment differs from the old and can an old style paint gun be converted to H.V.L.P.?

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ShawnB
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From: Broken Arrow, OK , USA
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 06-12-2001 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ShawnB   Click Here to Email ShawnB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you ever seen any of the old movie footage of the Ford Model T plant? They used to paint the bodies with a garden hose. My Grandfather worked for Ford before WWII and he has told me stories about painting cars with a brush. I have seen some original, 1920's paint jobs that looked up to par with more modern cars, 1960's or 70's. I personally think that this clear coat scheme is just a cover up for thin paint.

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joe
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From: Los Angeles
Registered: Feb 2001

posted 06-12-2001 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for joe   Click Here to Email joe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You mean a gravity feed gun right? Those are supposed to use less psi. They're environmentally friendly in that they cause less overspray. I have a detail one but haven't had a chance to use it (got it at a swapmeet). If it's anything like my grav. feed airbrush then it should work great. These new paints do chip a lot easier than the old ones, it sucks
The good stuff is $200 a gallon. Should have stocked up when it was $30

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joe
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From: Los Angeles
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posted 06-12-2001 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for joe   Click Here to Email joe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is diff. to paint a car at home lately, too many cops & nosy neighbors.

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steve'66
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From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000

posted 06-12-2001 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I talked to an old timer in the '60s that told me how they used to "rag" paint cars. They used cheese cloth to apply lacquer. Black of course.
When I was a teen ('60s) I used to paint cars at a used car dealer using lacquer. It didn't matter how poorly it went on 'cause you rubbed out each coat anyway. After several coats and buffing, they looked great! I'm with you, now that Acrylic Enamel isn't available anymore, and the fact that they arrest you for painting a car in your garage (in Cal anyway). The "modern" guns are HVLP HiVolumeLowPressure, with gravity feed cups. They do a great job with less overspray. And the basecoat/clearcoat paints have finally been perfected. I don't see too many failed clearcoats on cars that have been painted within the last 5 years or so. The single stage paints today are crap! It all started to go downhill when they eliminated lead from the paint.
I painted the mustang the time before last in my garage with acrylic enamel and it only lasted 3 years! Now it has a pro clearcoat job on it. We'll see how long it lasts.

SteveW

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