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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 24286 From: Saco, Maine Toys: '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 Registered: May 99
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posted 01-04-2001 04:31 PM
Here's something every well equiped shop should have, a parts tumbler: Put your rusty parts in the media, turn the tumbler on, and come back later and pick up your nice clean shiny parts. I want to make one, though, instead of buying one. ------------------ '72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc '94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip '97 Probe GTS 2.5L Disposable Commuter [This message has been edited by SteveLaRiviere (edited 03-27-2001).]
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Tim Journeyman Posts: 34 From: Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 01-11-2001 12:16 PM
I've been thinking of the same thing myself. Check out sportsmansguide.com I have their last catalog and what looks like the same thing as Eastwoods. Was on sale for $59.97. If I don't buy theirs I can go to the local sporting goods store and get a deluxe model for about $80.00, so check that out also.Tim
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 24286 From: Saco, Maine Toys: '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 Registered: May 99
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posted 01-11-2001 04:56 PM
How about this for low-buck:I'm going to try filling a coffee can with bead blasting media, strapping it onto my air compressor and seeing how that works. That way you can tumble your parts while you work. ------------------ '72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc '94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip '97 Probe GTS 2.5L Disposable Commuter
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ShawnB Journeyman Posts: 33 From: Broken Arrow, OK , USA Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 01-13-2001 11:57 AM
Steve - Your coffee can will work but wear ear plugs and tape the lid on very well. I had a friend that built a tumbler out of 1X pine boards in an octagonal shape, used a small elecric motor and uncooked rice as a media. Ammunition reloaders have been using tumblers for years to clean brass. You may be able to find them used locally.
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Doc Gearhead Posts: 466 From: Redwood City, Ca. USA Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 02-12-2001 02:14 AM
You guy's are guilty of inspiring a plan. My mom uses one of them electric up and down beds and her old one wore out the up an down part. She got a new bed and I robbed the vibrators out of her old bed. So the plan is to get a metal box to attach the vibrators to and put a plastic box/pan in it for the media. What do you think is the best general cleaning media? I have a buddy that runs a coating and polishing place and he has a serious vibrating deal that polishes parts after ceramic coating. He uses what appears to be plastic balls of various sizes (the largest being 1/4") and soapy water. I thought I'd just try that stuff until he told me it's $60 for 15lbs. I don't like sand cause it leaves grit on parts and has to be washed very thoroughly like in a dishwasher. The grit won't do the dishwasher any good so I'd like to find a better thing like, rice or nut shells? Those expensive plastic pellets last quite awhile so they could be what to do, he tells me an old bolt will come out looking like chrome in fifteen minutes with his multi dollar shaker. With the time it'll take to get this thing to work I could wire wheel 10,000 bolts .
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CRB Gearhead Posts: 116 From: Raritan NJ Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 03-07-2001 10:10 AM
well after reading this I went and pulled out my reloading tumbler and decided to see how well it would work with bolts. I used sand blasting media. I worked very well, took about three hours before everything was nice and clean.just thought you would like to know. later chip
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ccode67 Gearhead Posts: 955 From: douglasville,ga,usa Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 03-27-2001 01:12 PM
Hey guys, being an avid shooter as well as mustang nut I can tell you about my tumbler, it's a Dillon Pecision unit and has a heavy duty motor plus a lifetime guarantee,they installed a new motor in mine recently for no charge, Don't try to polish carb bodies in it though, I ruined a good 4100 by trying that, looks good but media keeps appearring fron out of orifices.Check out www.dillonprecision.com------------------ 67 stang 5 speed
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 24286 From: Saco, Maine Toys: '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 Registered: May 99
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posted 03-27-2001 04:30 PM
Do you have the CV-2001? ------------------ '72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc '94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip '97 Probe GTS 2.5L Disposable Commuter "Keep your driveway all Ford!" [This message has been edited by SteveLaRiviere (edited 03-27-2001).]
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 24286 From: Saco, Maine Toys: '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 Registered: May 99
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posted 12-12-2001 12:44 PM
I think I may buy the CV-500.http://dillonprecision.com/template/p.cfm?maj=16&min=0&dyn=1&CFID=1017688&CFTOKEN=84486450 ------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1 M code 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 open '72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Lok '94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip '97 Probe GTS 2.5L DOHC Christmas shopping? Why not use the M&M Bookstore?
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ccode67 Gearhead Posts: 955 From: douglasville,ga,usa Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 12-17-2001 09:31 AM
I have the CV-500, it is bigger than you think, the CV2000 is very large and would work even better on larger pieces, Eastwood sells rust cutting media as well as polishing media. I highly recommend the Dillon products, they are top quality with a warranty that is unmatched by anyone.------------------ Stuart MCA #48902 M&M #1091 67 stang 5 speed 91 f-150 xlt 98 explorer xlt sohc v-6
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 24286 From: Saco, Maine Toys: '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 Registered: May 99
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posted 12-17-2001 12:36 PM
I have a CV-500 on the way. Do you use regular blast media in it? ------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1 M code 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 open '72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Lok '94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip '97 Probe GTS 2.5L DOHC Christmas shopping? Why not use the M&M Bookstore?
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ccode67 Gearhead Posts: 955 From: douglasville,ga,usa Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 12-18-2001 08:15 AM
About 90% of my tumbling is for cleaning the empty brass before reloading bullets, for that I use corn cob media (Dillon), I have used some Eastwood Rust cutter media with good results on bolts and small parts. Whatever you do , DON'T clean carburetors in it, they come out looking new, but you will never get the media out of the orifices. (The voice of experience here, one ruined 4100 carb). At one time the tumbler ran 24 hours a day for two weeks, cleaned 25,000 pieces of brass 1000 at a time, 6 hours per batch.
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 24286 From: Saco, Maine Toys: '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 Registered: May 99
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posted 12-18-2001 08:07 PM
Cool, thanks for the advice. I plan to use it mainly for nuts and bolts, brackets, and things like that. ------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1 M code 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 open '72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Lok '94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip '97 Probe GTS 2.5L DOHC Christmas shopping? Why not use the M&M Bookstore?
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ccode67 Gearhead Posts: 955 From: douglasville,ga,usa Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 12-19-2001 07:36 AM
Just try to wear it out, you can't do it, a friend has the CV2000 and uses it for rock tumbling/polishing, took him 7 years to wear out the motor, he sent it to dillon and they replaced the motor and the tub at no charge. All of my reloading equipment is dillon, their reputation for warranty and service is unmatched anywhere. ------------------ Stuart MCA #48902 M&M #1091 67 stang 5 speed 91 f-150 xlt 98 explorer xlt sohc v-6
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Stewart Moderator Posts: 8334 From: Monterey, CA Mustangsandmore Member #437 Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 12-19-2001 02:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by ccode67: took him 7 years to wear out the motor, he sent it to dillon and they replaced the motor and the tub at no charge. All of my reloading equipment is dillon, their reputation for warranty and service is unmatched anywhere.
Hmmm, they must have changed their policy because clicking on the above provided link, the website states they have only a one year warranty now. Stewart
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 24286 From: Saco, Maine Toys: '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 Registered: May 99
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posted 12-19-2001 08:45 PM
I was just going to ask if they warranty longer than advertised on their site? ------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1 M code 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 open '72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Lok '94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip '97 Probe GTS 2.5L DOHC Christmas shopping? Why not use the M&M Bookstore?
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73trials Gearhead Posts: 383 From: The heat & humidity capital of the world Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 12-19-2001 11:32 PM
must be a new thing with Dillon. wore out a press recently and they repaced it. WAY over 1 year old. still, you'll never wear out that tumbler.
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ccode67 Gearhead Posts: 955 From: douglasville,ga,usa Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 12-20-2001 09:59 AM
One year warranty is new to me, I'll check my next issue of the Blue Press (their monthly magazine) and let you know. In the past they have even sent me parts for my press that I lost at no charge, they are great.
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 24286 From: Saco, Maine Toys: '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 Registered: May 99
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posted 12-20-2001 07:09 PM
That's great. They sound like a real good company.------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1 M code 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 open '72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Lok '94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip '97 Probe GTS 2.5L DOHC Christmas shopping? Why not use the M&M Bookstore?
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AKBOSSMAN Gearhead Posts: 2766 From: WASILLA , AK USA M&M #743 MCA #40857 Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 12-21-2001 04:06 PM
I need a Calander too! ------------------ WAYNE CURTIS 70 GRABBER GREEN BOSS 302 01 Focus ZX3 03 Boss 281 (waiting on order form) 92 SHELBY 4X4 (K-9 IDITAROD LEAD DOG) [URL=http://www.akbossman.mustangsandmore.ws]AKBOSSMAN on the Web /URL] "If your under control then your not going fast enough" Parnelli Jones
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 24286 From: Saco, Maine Toys: '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 Registered: May 99
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posted 12-21-2001 05:45 PM
I got it today! But, because it's a Christmas gift, my wife won't let me play with it until Tuesday. ------------------
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capri man Gearhead Posts: 1700 From: doerun, ga. Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 12-21-2001 08:03 PM
i thought dillon used to advertise a lifetime warranty. of course that has been several years ago.------------------ mike r racing is real everything else is just a game. 81 capri-7.56 @88mph 1/8 1.56 60 ft.
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 24286 From: Saco, Maine Toys: '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 Registered: May 99
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posted 12-22-2001 04:11 PM
CC, what do you use for media in yours? The manual for the thing specifies ground corn or walnut shells, but I don't think those will get me very far with rusty bolts.Do you run black beauty in yours? ------------------
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ccode67 Gearhead Posts: 955 From: douglasville,ga,usa Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 12-24-2001 07:49 AM
Corn cob won't do much for rust, polished rust is still rust Walnut is used for very dirty brass, corn cob is used to polish brass or other soft metals,a little Brasso or Dillon liquid polish makes them shine like new, the Eastwood medias are good for rust and hard metal. If you clean a lot of little parts you may want to pickup a media separator, they work very well also.
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ccode67 Gearhead Posts: 955 From: douglasville,ga,usa Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 01-14-2002 09:20 AM
I just received the latest issue of The Blue Press, Dillon's sale book, It does say one year warranty, it must be something new, I bet they will honor it past a year, they have been so good warranty wise they won't be able to stop.
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68 S-code GT Gearhead Posts: 521 From: Sayreville, NJ, US Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-15-2002 08:46 AM
Steve, I was thinking of this route since I saw the tumblers in Eastwood?s catalog. What kind of media have you used with good results? I like you don't want to polish the rust! quote: Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere: CC, what do you use for media in yours? The manual for the thing specifies ground corn or walnut shells, but I don't think those will get me very far with rusty bolts.Do you run black beauty in yours?
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 24286 From: Saco, Maine Toys: '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 Registered: May 99
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posted 01-15-2002 09:17 AM
I'm embarrassed to say I haven't used it yet. I've put it off until I found out if I can use black beauty or not. I think I'm just going to try it and find out.------------------
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68 S-code GT Gearhead Posts: 521 From: Sayreville, NJ, US Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-15-2002 01:08 PM
That stuff might chew the heck out of the plastic bowl. Has anybody emailed you about other tumbler brands? quote: Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere: I'm embarrassed to say I haven't used it yet. I've put it off until I found out if I can use black beauty or not. I think I'm just going to try it and find out.
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 24286 From: Saco, Maine Toys: '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 Registered: May 99
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posted 01-15-2002 01:30 PM
Well, I've already bought the Dillon Precision unit. Now I just have to abuse it. ------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1 M code 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 open '72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Lok '94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip '97 Probe GTS 2.5L DOHC "Speed costs money. How fast do you want to spend?"
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 24286 From: Saco, Maine Toys: '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 Registered: May 99
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posted 01-17-2002 02:52 PM
Well, I thought I would email Eastwood and Dillon and ask them about what media I can use. Eastwood has responded, but I haven't heard from Dillon yet:Subject: RE: tumblers Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 06:00:37 -0800 From: Tech Help Organization: The Eastwood Company To: "'Steve LaRiviere'" the tumbler bowls are made of plastic, with a plexi glass top, the derusting media is used wet so i would not recommend using black beauty as it will wear the bowl down
Thank You. Joe Feel free to check out any products listed above, as well as our entire product line at : www.eastwoodcompany.com www. hotcoat.com www.hotcoatpro.com Thank You for contacting The Eastwood Company Technical Support Department. The Accuracy of our Response is dependent on the information that you provide to us. We suggest that you follow all manufacturer and label instructions before use of any of our products. We want you to get the best results and above all be safe. -----Original Message----- From: Steve LaRiviere [SMTP:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 4:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: tumblers Hello, Could you tell me if the bowls on your HEAVY DUTY WET DRY MEDIA TUMBLER SYSTEM Item-no 13184, and DUAL PURPOSE WET/DRY MEDIA TUMBLER SYSTEM Item-no 43204 are made of plastic or metal? Can you use black beauty media in them? Thanks, Steve LaRiviere << File: slariviere.vcf >> ------------------
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 24286 From: Saco, Maine Toys: '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 Registered: May 99
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posted 01-17-2002 02:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by ccode67: I have used some Eastwood Rust cutter media with good results on bolts and small parts.
CC, did you use the rust cutter media wet? With what, mineral spirits? ------------------
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68 S-code GT Gearhead Posts: 521 From: Sayreville, NJ, US Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-17-2002 03:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
the derusting media is used wet
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That sounds strange to me also! [This message has been edited by 68 S-code GT (edited 01-17-2002).]
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ccode67 Gearhead Posts: 955 From: douglasville,ga,usa Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 01-18-2002 07:50 AM
I used it dry, didn't know it was supposed to be wet, I was given the leftovers from someone elses batch, so no "dumbrections" were with it, I let it run for several hours, seems to work fine, would probably work better wet.
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 24286 From: Saco, Maine Toys: '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 Registered: May 99
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posted 01-18-2002 03:41 PM
Here's what Dillon said.Subject: RE: CV-500 Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 12:00:53 -0700 From: "Dillon Precision" To: "'Steve LaRiviere'" Steve,
I'm not familiar with this media at all. Worst case, a new bowl is $17.95. Thank you, Dillon Precision Products, Inc. ********************************************************* Please leave all previous messages attached, as we need them for our reply. ********************************************************* Orders/Expert Assistance: (800) 223-4570 Order Status/Basic Orders: (800) 762-3845 Catalog Requests: (800) 762-3844 Fax : (480) 998-2786 Showroom Hours: Monday - Friday 9 am to 6 pm and Saturday 8 am to 3 pm GK/bah -----Original Message----- From: Steve LaRiviere [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 5:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: CV-500 << File: slariviere.vcf >> Hello, I recently bought a CV-500 vibratory case cleaner, and I was reading the manual and it specifies using ground corn cob or walnut shells for a medium. I was planning on using black beauty media {silica slag} because I wanted to use this unit to restore nuts and bolts in my car restoration hobby. Will the bowl be ok with this? It seems like a rugged unit and very similar to the tumbler Eastwood's sells. Thanks for your help, Steve LaRiviere
I think I'm use going to put some duct tape over the socket screws, fill her up with black beauty and let her rip. ------------------
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sigtauenus Gearhead Posts: 1602 From: Beaufort, SC Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 04-23-2002 06:46 AM
any ripping yet?
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 24286 From: Saco, Maine Toys: '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 Registered: May 99
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posted 04-23-2002 08:38 AM
No, I need to give it a try. It doesn't seem to have a lot of vibratory action, but we'll see. It seems more toy than tool, but maybe I'll be surprised.I wasn't too thrilled when I found after I got it that it needs a special abrasive and kerosine slurry. I asked the company if I could use black beauty in it and they answered "Duh, what's black beauty? Never heard of it. I dunno, I guess so. At the worst, you can buy a new basket if you ruin it." ------------------
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sigtauenus Gearhead Posts: 1602 From: Beaufort, SC Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 04-23-2002 01:52 PM
what's kerosene slurry? I can't help but imagine a kerosene slurpy.
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 24286 From: Saco, Maine Toys: '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 Registered: May 99
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posted 04-23-2002 02:22 PM
A slurry is just a mixture of solvent and media.They sell a grit that mixes with kerosine that reloaders use. ------------------
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 24286 From: Saco, Maine Toys: '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 Registered: May 99
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posted 05-24-2002 08:38 PM
Well, I've been using it and I've pretty much ruled it a toy/waste of money. I put some small brackets in and from what I've seen so far you'll get pretty old waiting for it to clean the parts off. It may be the black beauty I'm using. I might buy some of that rust-cutter grit Eastwood sells and see how that goes. ------------------
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 24286 From: Saco, Maine Toys: '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 Registered: May 99
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posted 06-03-2002 06:27 PM
I've been using it every day now. It's ok. Bolts seem to take about 10 hours to go from rusty to bare. Forget about using it for brackets, that would take about 10 years from what I've seen.It's neat tossing the bolts in and then just setting it and forgetting it. It's a great tool for your friend to own.
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