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MLariviere
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From: Biddeford,Me.USA
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posted 10-23-2000 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MLariviere   Click Here to Email MLariviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really want to do a paint on my car{and for Steve},but what kind of paint should I use? I don't want to get into the bc/cc stuff since it's really toxic,plus I probably won't be able to get it anyway.I want something durable yet easy to work with.{and don't tell me to get afew paint bombs at Walmart! }

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Rob Parsons
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From: Lebanon,TN
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posted 10-24-2000 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rob Parsons   Click Here to Email Rob Parsons     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used bc/cc for the first time this Summer, and I liked it a lot better than acrylic enamel. The base coat goes on easier(especially with light colored metallics)than the enamel. It takes longer because of the wait time between the coats, but it will be better in the long run. I used Valspar and had good luck. The base coat does not make a overspray mess like enamel. I don't have the experience that others have.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 10-26-2000 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rob, what did you use for breathing apparattus? Did the smell stay in your garage long?

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Rob Parsons
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posted 10-27-2000 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rob Parsons   Click Here to Email Rob Parsons     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used a paint respirator. I use a head sock, long sleeve shirt to keep the paint off my skin. The clear coat is very sticky and will get all over you. something that I will use next time is goggles. When I was painting the top, some over spray came back toward my face. The smell did not linger long. It may if you painted a lot in your shop. Hosing the floors to get the overspray dust out will help get rid of the smell.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 10-29-2000 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've read that bc/cc systems have isocyanites, a deadly toxin, and you need a totally self-contained breathing system, such as a Hobby-Air.

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WK Irish
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From: Albany, OR, USA
Registered: Jul 2000

posted 10-30-2000 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WK Irish   Click Here to Email WK Irish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve raises THEE most important question that any of us DIYer's need to ask ourselves before considering a paint system - Does it contain Isocyanates???
This stuff is dangerous and can have some serious consequences if you aren't wearing the right gear from head to foot.
I'd cite some of the info sources I've seen in postings, but let me suggest that anyone really interested in this subject review a thread on Len Stuart's BBS starting at: http://www.autobodystore.com/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=26680
Rebecca "the respirator girl" is with an outfit at http://www.neoterik.com and has been a wealth of information which I have no reason to believe isn't completely accurate.
It's worth a little investigation for anyone looking at painting.
WK Irish

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mellowyellow
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From: So. Fl.
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posted 11-21-2000 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That stuff is toxic as hell!! I did my own when lacquer was in vogue and did one with Centari and that was the end for me. The man who painted my 65 with Sikkens bc/cc paints in a t-shirt and shop trousers!! He uses a Mickey Mouse respirator and this is at a major collision shop!!!The Maaco shop painter wears a special suit and an air system. The same applies to the 2-stage primers. To me, it's just not worth it.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 11-21-2000 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, Len Stuart is fond of saying "Don't die for a nice paint job." or something to that effect.

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