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Topic: Welding Equipment help?
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BmxKris
Gearhead Posts: 182
From: St. Louis Mo Usa
Registered: Nov 99
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posted 01-11-2000 11:51 PM
   
I need to purchase a mig welder. I am on a somewhat tight budget. I've been looking at miller electric, and Lincolin, mig welders but I have'nt decided what to get. Does anyone know where I can find used welders or reconditioned welders. I'm not concernd with it being brand new I just need a good welder for home use. Basically to weld on my 65 and get it back up to par as far as the rust goes. Thank you for all of your help.Kris, P.S. Which super charger is better as far as power gains and reliability Paxton or Powerdyne. I've look into both and really like the powerdyne because it needs no lubrication and and is silent drive.
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TomP
Gearhead Posts: 3609
From: Delta BC Canada
Registered: Dec 99
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posted 01-12-2000 03:14 AM
a 100 amp job that runs on a normal 110Volt household circuit is a minimum... a 130 Amp like the Miller is a better choice,this will do anything you need on a car.
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RonnieT
Gearhead Posts: 357
From: Port Allen, La. 70767
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 01-12-2000 11:05 PM
I read in a article somewhere that you do not want to use a welder that uses flux cored wire for autobody work, you will need a true gas sheilded mig welder. The flux used in the flux core wire is usually acid based and gets in-behind the panels you are welding and cannot be nuetralized after the welding has been complete. This area of acid contamination causes rust in the weld areas.Ronnie
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Robert K
Gearhead Posts: 324
From: Nashville, TN
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 07-27-2000 08:04 AM
You might try checking the local pawn shops for a welder. Most of the used ones I have seen around here are pretty rough especially for what they were asking for them. Be real careful on the price when buying from pawn shops, most of the time they'll have a really used unit priced close to a new one. Just know what the new units are going for before you check the pawnshops. Ronnie T is correct. If you can get the shielding gas setup, that is the way to go. The welds are extremely clean with no slag on them. Flux cored wire works in a pinch but once you've used the shielding gas, you'll never go back.
I've got a Millermatic 130 that is great. I've welded 1/8" thick stock in a single pass with absolutely no problem at all (good penetration to other side).
You can just about pay for a welder by doing a few sheet metal projects on your car. As you probably already know, welding is not one of the cheaper things to hire done.
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Robert K
Gearhead Posts: 324
From: Nashville, TN
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 07-31-2000 08:09 AM
MIG wasn't designed for extremely thick stock. If you want to weld very thick stock you're better off with an ARC(stick) welder. On thin sheet metal, a stick welder will just blow holes in the metal.
Maybe I misunderstood the above message, but MIG, when used with shielding gas, DOES NOT spatter. If you're getter spatter with shielding gas, you need to turn up the gas or the metal you're welding is dirty or rusty. Now with flux cored wire you will get spatter which is why I don't like it and don't recommend it. For all welding on a car, you can't beat a good MIG welder.[This message has been edited by Robert K (edited 07-31-2000).]
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Dale
Journeyman Posts: 9
From: Edmonton,Alberta.Canada
Registered: Sep 99
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posted 09-06-2000 01:45 AM
I bought a used mig ( Century 90/110 amp same as Home Depot sells for over $700.00 WITHOUT the gas bottle ) got it from " bargain finder" for $200.00 w/bottle!! awesome deal,not even a scratch on it! Love it. Mig is the way to go at home,it's so easy to use. BUT YOU MUST set the wire speed correctly!! also beware of the wire spool binding inside the machine as you get close to the end of the spool. Ask me how I know. If wire does not feed properly it WILL NOT weld right. I can't stress enough how critical this is. The instruction book seemed to not cover this in enough detail.
Good luck and have fun. PS wear a respirator the fumes are deadly.
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1970_351_FB
Gearhead Posts: 157
From: Apsley,Ontario, Canada
Registered: Aug 99
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posted 09-07-2000 05:15 PM
I got a wire feed flux core from Lincoln It's great for metal about 1/16 up ta just under 1/4. If the metal is not perfectly clean it splatters everywhere. Thinner metal requires welding in stitches (1/2 inch on 1 inch off) to allow the metal to cool or it burns through.BUT on the plus side I can add a mig kit to it if I ever have the money. The video that came with the welder say's all I have to do is attach the conversion kit to the handle plug in the shielding gas and (I don't know why but) reverse the polarity. I would recommend a MIG if you can afford it
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Tim
Journeyman Posts: 34
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Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 10-21-2000 11:48 AM
Have to add my 2 cents worth here.
I have a miller welder/generator set and a Hobart Handler 130 MIG. If I had to buy a wire machine again I'd opt for a 220 volt unit.
I've used these before, much nicer to use and can weld anything with it.
Tim
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Rob Parsons
Gearhead Posts: 174
From: Lebanon,TN
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 10-27-2000 12:46 PM
I went the cheap route and bought the Craftsman mig welder. It does a great job and was quite a bit cheaper than the others. I am able to weld whatever I need to on the car.
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67coupe
Gearhead Posts: 178
From: dallas NC usa
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 12-03-2000 05:44 PM
i have a 220 and a 110 lincoln with mig conversion on both (flux sux) the 220 is a little steader but both weld very well. also the 220 wasnt much more and worth it if u ever plan to weld heaver metel 110 is a 100 amp 220 is a 155 amp.
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cpmaverick
Moderator Posts: 1256
From: Auburn, AL.
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 12-03-2000 09:48 PM
I use MIG at work and once I finally figured it out it works great, I much prefer it to stick welding, it doesn't spatter and penetrates thin metal nicely, we use it on exhaust mainly and thats the lowest setting, I used it to weld my Z-bar on my clutch and it penetrated nicely.I've used TIG at my University Formula Shop, I know its better once you get the hang of it but I'm not quite there yet  ------------------
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