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Keota66Stang
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Posts: 7
From: Fort Collins, CO
Registered: Oct 2006

posted 10-29-2006 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keota66Stang        Reply w/Quote
Hello,

I am very new to your boards and some what new to old fords. I just bought a 1966 Mustang with a 351 Cleveland. The guy installed roller rockers and said he adjusted them, but they still sound noisy. Also I can��t tell if the passenger side bank has a bad piston or if it is just and exhaust leak. Is it normal for old fords to drip water in the exhaust? Sorry to be such a newb here. I would greatly appreciate any and all help.

Thanks

Here is what is in the car.
comp cam/ .570 lift .292 duration
sainless steel valves 2.19intake 1.77 exaust
cc and flow tested kline guides and plates
harland & sharp roller rockers
melling high volume oil pump
dual remote oil filters
holly street dominator intake ports matched and flow tested
800 CFM holley double pumper
carter super fuel pump
mallory uniltie distributor
t5 borg/warner 5speed transmission
motorsport short throw shifter
motorsport heavy duty clutch
motorsport flywheel and bell housing
1" sway bar
disc brakes front and rear
9" rear end w/ 4.10 gearslimited slip
lakewood chrome traction bars
trunk mounted battery
tach w/ shift light and rev limiter
new tires front 193/70 R14
rear 245/60 R15


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bob6364
Gearhead

Posts: 447
From: griswold,ct usa MCA#59447
Registered: Dec 2004

posted 10-29-2006 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bob6364        Reply w/Quote
Gee...sounds like a pretty nice engine if it was put together properly,snug up all your header bolts first maybe the slap/leak with go away

My old Fords spit lots of water on my garage floor no biggy ,water is actually a byproduct of combustion,now if you said you had a plume of water vapor and air bubbles in your radiator I would say we have a problem.

Lets see some pics

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Keota66Stang
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Posts: 7
From: Fort Collins, CO
Registered: Oct 2006

posted 10-29-2006 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keota66Stang        Reply w/Quote
Is it common for these rocker to sound noisy as well?

Aussie XAXB
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Posts: 131
From: North Olmsted, Ohio
Registered: Jan 2006

posted 11-05-2006 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aussie XAXB        Reply w/Quote
Aftermarket roller rockers will have a sound. If you hear a ticking though the valve lash could be out of adjustment if it is a mechanical lifter cam. If it has hydraulic lifters you don't need to adjust them, and if you have a tick with the hydraulic lifters it could be a lifter that is sticking (gummed up), lifter preload is wrong, or from some other source.

The sound that the rockers make that is normal is just the actuating sound. It doesn't sound as hard as a valve tick. I have shaft mount Harland Sharp roller rockers on my wife's 331 stroker I built for her and they have this sound which is normal, at least for Harland Sharp.

Personally I hate to rely on someone else's work so you may want to pull the valve covers and check valve lash or lifter preload.

Steve

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66 Racer
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From: West Covina, California
Registered: Aug 2001

posted 11-08-2006 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66 Racer        Reply w/Quote
Well stock 351C dont have adjustable rockers, they torque down. If the wrong pushrod length was used and they are too short they can make noise, but SLIGHT noise may be normal.

You would need to check the wear pattern on the valve tips, the roller on the rocker should be centered on the valve.

Water out of the exhaust is normal when the engine is cold but when its warm (normal temp) you shouldnt get any water. Unless maybe if its cold/humid then you still may.

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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
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posted 11-08-2006 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker        Reply w/Quote
He has adjustable roller rockers, not stock ones.

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66 Racer
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From: West Covina, California
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posted 11-08-2006 01:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66 Racer        Reply w/Quote
Is it possible though that they are non adjustable pedistal mount? My buddy has pedistal mount scorpion roller rockers on his 4 barrel heads.

Although someone who built a 351c should know the diff. so maybe they are adjustable stud mount rockers. I just have heard of some people making this mistake before.

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Under Construction 66 Coupe - - -
306, 10.2:1, 66 289 heads 1.84/1.50, mild port work, comp cams 270H cam, Performer manifold, Holley 700cfm double pumper, tri-y headers, 2.5 dual exaust w/flows, centerforce dual friction, 8" 2.79 gears, w/mini spool

1/8th mile - 8.6 @ 83mph
351w Stroker in the works

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