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Topic: VIN Tag on 67 gone. Now what?
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460-67Stang
Gearhead Posts: 296
From: Idaho, USA
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 09-15-2006 11:08 AM
 
OK, Call me a dummy. Years ago I had all new fender aprons installed on my '67 coupe. Yup you guessed it, the VIN number went to the scrapyard along with it's rusted fender apron. Talk about one of life's regrets.Is there anyone offering a solution to this? Perhaps a stamped piece of sheetmetal that can be welded and finished into place? Brian ------------------
"My lug nuts require more torque than your Honda makes"
472ci in a '67 Coupe, 4 wheel disc, 2 much fun
www.472ci-67mustang.com
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Dave Gibson
Moderator Posts: 10769
From: Norfolk, Virginia, USA M&M#166 MCA#47921
Registered: Aug 99
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posted 09-15-2006 11:26 AM
If you still have the door data plate, why not get some metal stamps and restamp the number on the apron. Granted, it won't be a match to the original, but at least you could get it done. Just a thought.Dave & Terri ------------------
'65 Mustang Fastback
'66 Mustang Coupe
'02 Explorer XLT
Common sense isn't common anymore.
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Fastback68
Gearhead Posts: 4511
From: Sucat, Paranaque, Philippines
Registered: Jul 99
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posted 09-15-2006 12:22 PM
Isn't this something you need to discuss with the appropriate State authority? Depending on where you live (I guess), that stamped VIN on the inner fender is not just there for show.
For example, if you were here in the Philippines, and you presented all the paperwork authenticating the car as originally having that VIN on the inner fender, the authority would stamp that VIN on the new inner fender for you. You would not be allowed to do it yourself, and it would not look original - but that would not be their purpose.
In the US, or some states at least, I imagine stamping your own VIN would be a serious crime - no?
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Fastback68
Gearhead Posts: 4511
From: Sucat, Paranaque, Philippines
Registered: Jul 99
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posted 09-15-2006 12:27 PM
Just a postscript! ... Here in the Flips again, if the VIN is visible on the inner fender, a VIN tag on the dash is deemed irrelevant, which is why I made my own dash tag for the 68. But if the inner fender VIN is not visible (like on my 72 - actually a 73 with a swapped dash), the dash is what counts!
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460-67Stang
Gearhead Posts: 296
From: Idaho, USA
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 09-15-2006 02:58 PM
Yes, the reason I ask this question is that the VIN is required to register the car for license plates and owners title. I have a valid title which I got before the apron was replaced. Now I'm in another state and in order to get a new title in this state they require a VIN inspection...to validate the title and car match, etc.. I'm sure there is a process I can go through to get this resolved, but I'd rather just replace the VIN stamp and be done with it.The car has the original door tag on it, but it says, "Not for title or registration purposes". I've thought about stamping the number myself as I have a set up punch stamps, but I don't think it would be acceptable...or legal! ------------------
"My lug nuts require more torque than your Honda makes"
472ci in a '67 Coupe, 4 wheel disc, 2 much fun
www.472ci-67mustang.com
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gmliebau
Gearhead Posts: 691
From: Port St. Lucie, FL
Registered: Jan 2004
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posted 09-15-2006 03:40 PM
Have you replaced the inner fender from the radiator support all the way to the firewall? There is one more location on the 67's for the VIN. It's on the passenger side, covered by the fender. On earlier Mustangs it's on the driver side too, again covered by the fender.
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68 S-code GT
Gearhead Posts: 3835
From: Sayreville, NJ, US
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 09-15-2006 03:54 PM
Are all of the 67s like that?I think Kevin Marti use to make the door tags if you had one of his reports and a title for the car. Don?t know if he still makes these or not but I would think that he would at least want some other proof like a partial door tag or something.
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Scott H
Gearhead Posts: 1480
From: Chicago area
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted 09-15-2006 06:54 PM
Don't get the government involved!At least here in Illinois, and in several states I've witnessed, they will assign their own random number as the new VIN for your car. You will lose all traces of originality. It is a Federal crime to tamper with or alter a VIN number. That having been said, I think you should go ahead and get the correct numbers installed as it matches your title and door tag. Call Marti Auto Works, he used to have a set of numbers identical to Ford and in the past offered a restoration service where he would stamp your appropriate VIN in a new fender apron (with proper documentation from you) and then send you the apron.
Not sure if he still does this. Once you have the correct looking numbers in hand, you can decide if you want to have them spliced in and welded by a competent body many or experienced welder, or you could swap out the entire panel. Don't get the state involved, they will treat the car like a common transportation commodity with no care for originality.
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DidgeyTrucker
Gearhead Posts: 1813
From: Greenbrier, TN USA
Registered: Oct 99
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posted 09-15-2006 08:07 PM
What he said about getting the state involved. A friend took the VIN plate from his 1969 'Stang (the riveted to the dash plate) with him to register his car hed been working on for almost 10 years. The clerk freaked out that he had removed the riveted plate and took it from him. (He got another plate from another car he owned......)There are services for people who have replaced the sheetmetal with the VIN stamping that will stamp a new piece of metal with your VIN (with proof of ownership). Weld that in so you can't tell, THEN have the car inspected. If all the VINS match and you have paperwork there should be no problems. And, just in case, have the receipts from buying and installing the new innerfender sheetmetal. Tracy
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mellowyellow
Gearhead Posts: 8198
From: So. Fl.
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 09-16-2006 10:38 AM
Marti caught too muck flak and stopped doing it, no matter how much documentation you have. It's too risky for someone who has a good business like he has. Why put it at risk!
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