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Topic: Has anyone ever used Painless Wiring?
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cynot65
Gearhead Posts: 1258
From: New York
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 07-19-2006 09:19 PM
 
I've thought a long time about the issue of an entire new wiring harness for my car. If there's one thing I can't tolerate is faulty wiring. I would absolutely go nuts if i ever had one after all this work. Painless Performance (which was given good reviews from both M&F and M.Monthly magazines)offers a complete assembly for 64 1/2's to 66's. Has anyone ever used these products? The only problem I see is that there is nomention of the connection for the power top. It's a question I'll ask when I call them. I'm really leaning towards doing this.
Tony C*------------------
65 Convertible, Vintage Burgandy/Standard Black Interior, 289, 4spd Top loader
M&M Member#450
It ain't done yet, but it'll be done right!! (I can't wait to change the last line)
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mellowyellow
Gearhead Posts: 8198
From: So. Fl.
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 07-19-2006 10:10 PM
For a 66 found a used one in Nev. It had a couple minor probs and used the original as a parts harness. Soldered everything, sprayed all contacts with a contact cleaner spray from RShak. Completely stripped it, like a foot at a time. Had it under a magnified reader lamp with a lot of light. Finding no shorts, circuit tested all connections, etc. retaped it and put it back under dash.Did the same thing on my 68 buying a used one needing no work. Still...did the same as above. Everything works. A turnoff about Painless is that some connections are not furnished so have read. Pricey too, but their harnesses are well made. For my wiring deals, bought the Osborn Electrical Assembly Manual for each year. They have engineering drawing. For example, on the 66, the top wiring is traced from motor to the circuit breaker on the solenoid. Do not know if Painless handles that or not.
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 29200
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 07-19-2006 11:58 PM
We use a lot of their stuff in race cars only and find them to be very well made.I have seen some of the resto-kits for muscle cars and am not a fan.
I prefer the dedicated harnesses that are supplied by NPD. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
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my65
Journeyman Posts: 99
From: Dearborn
Registered: May 2004
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posted 07-20-2006 01:07 AM
I just installed a painless electric fan relay kit. They make some good stuff. That complete wiring kit they sell is over $600. I would get it if I had the money.
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Darryl Eichenlaub
Gearhead Posts: 124
From: Buckley,Wa.
Registered: Dec 2005
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posted 07-20-2006 01:31 AM
I'm with you on wiring, I did a CJ5 a couple of years ago with a Painless kit. It went in easy and I didn't have any issues with it. Last weekend I rewired a dune buggy I'm building, since it was not very complicated I used a cheap no name wiring kit. I'm still fighting the headlights and one turn signal. I just wished I would have relide on the lessons I learned with the Jeep. Painless is the way to go. The only thing I question is they like to crimp the connections and I think solder is a better way, they address this issue in the directions and explain their point of view.------------------
Darryl Eichenlaub
1965 Mustang Coupe restomod 289,c4,body and interior mods.
1956 F-100 460,c6,9" major body mods, on going project.
1967 Mustang Fastback, father/son project 5.0,5spd,9".
1975 F250 4x4 Highboy 390,4spd,35",custom paint.
2002 Mustang v6,5spd, daughters college ride.
2001 Ford Escape, Wifes grocery getter.
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exlocal
Gearhead Posts: 1552
From: hacienda hts., CA, USA
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted 07-20-2006 11:21 AM
Never used one myself, but a co-worker wires dune buggies and race cars on the side. He claims Painless is junk, but then again he custom wires each car and charges a lot for his time, but never seems to run out of customers.------------------
fsm
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cynot65
Gearhead Posts: 1258
From: New York
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 07-20-2006 01:16 PM
Thank you all for your comments.
Darryl, They do show the wires with a crimp BUT they recommend that they be soldered which is what I will do.
Alex, if you use this stuff that's good enough for me. The purchase price is in the budget which is the only reason why I asked.
Thanks guys
Tony C*
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65 Convertible, Vintage Burgandy/Standard Black Interior, 289, 4spd Top loader
M&M Member#450
It ain't done yet, but it'll be done right!! (I can't wait to change the last line)
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indyphil
Gearhead Posts: 3394
From: Senoia, G.A. USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 07-20-2006 04:18 PM
Ive used an NPD front engine bay harness, and sensor harness with great success. I replaced my 68 main harness with a used one from an M&M member (yay) - also good results.
But back then painless didnt make a main harness for a 68, now they do. I wouldnt hesitate if I had the money. I like the way everything is labelled. Installing a main harness isnt much fun though. ------------------
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