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Topic:   NOT  HAPPY WITH COMPANY CALLED BOLTLOCKER
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	BEAR12686 Journeyman Posts: 61 From: NEW  YORK Registered: Oct 2005 
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posted 07-18-2006 06:28 PM    
          
 i dont  know if anyone  has ever  used boltlocker  on ebay  but  i bought  a  stainless  engine  bolt  kit  that  says  for  a  289  302 5.0  engine  when  i  got  it the  water  pump bolts  were  the  wrong  size  three  were  missing  and  the  others  were  too  long  and  no 1 1/2 bolts at  all   i  emailed  him  thanking  him  for  the  kit  but  explained  to  him  what   happened   he  said  you  didnt  read  the  fine  print  i  had  to  tell  him it was  for  a  289   64 to 67  ( i  have  a   68)   i  offered  to  send  back  half   the  kit  that  i  didnt  need  if  he  would  send  me  the  correct  bolts   the  kit  cost  38.00  with  shipping he  say  no  send  him  another  13.00  plus  5.00  shipping  to  correct  this  problem   after  10 e mails  i  relize this  is  going  know  were   so  i  thanked  him  and  said  ill let   all  the   people  on mustangs  and  more   what  a  wonderfull  business man  you  are    wich  i  got   big  deal  like  im  going  to  advertise  on ther  web  site  ever   so   keep  away  from boltlocker   phone  number 877 839 0556   [email protected]    will  never  help  out  a  customer  hes on ebay 
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	SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 48752 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99 
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posted 07-18-2006 06:32 PM    
          
  quote: Originally posted by BEAR12686: wich  i  got   big  deal  like  im  going  to  advertise  on ther  web  site  ever
  That's right, he won't. I have standards, you know.    ------------------ '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '70 Mustang Convertible - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 XL  
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	exlocal Gearhead Posts: 1552 From: hacienda hts., CA, USA Registered: Dec 2004 
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posted 07-18-2006 11:02 PM    
          
 I've given up on Ebay.  Too many rip off artists anymore.------------------ fsm 
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	69 Sportsroof Gearhead Posts: 2814 From: Valley, Alabama, USA Registered: Mar 2002 
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posted 07-19-2006 11:04 AM    
          
 Best bolt kit available is from ARP. I have lots of water pump bolts left over. Send me an email of what you need and I'll get them to you. My wife will be thrilled for me to get them out of the house.   
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	buening Gearhead Posts: 317 From: Decatur, IL   Registered: Mar 2005 
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posted 07-20-2006 09:39 AM    
          
 Honest opinion, I purchase the same kit from Boltlocker for a 70 351w and half weren't the right length/size. I used the ones that i could. The ones that were missing/wrong size were thrown in a box and i took the original bolts to the hardware store and found the exact same style stainless bolts there. Any local hardware store that carries bolts will have the exact same stainless ones that you got from boltlocker, and i'm sure that is where his source is from. He just packages them in little baggies. I ground the letters off the heads and polished them up. They look quite nice now     BTW, they aren't the strongest metal so don't overtorque them. I've also found that the intake bolts and longer bolts seem to stretch alot, requiring frequent re-torquing of the bolts. FYI.------------------ 1970 Grabber Blue Mach 1 H-code 1970 Fastback 2003 Torch Red Mustang 
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	johnmustang Gearhead Posts: 6748 From:  British Columbia , Canada Registered: Nov 2001 
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posted 07-20-2006 12:54 PM    
          
  quote: Originally posted by buening:  I've also found that the intake bolts and longer bolts seem to stretch alot, requiring frequent re-torquing of the bolts. FYI.
  I was always under the impression that you should not re-torque intake manifold bolts, that they (the gaskets) should be replaced.  Please correct me if I am wrong (usually I am  ) and explain to me why you can re-torque without affecting the integrity of the gaskets. I am always willing to learn   ------------------  JOHN 65 FASTBACK 2+2...14.44 @ 107 MPH  87 TAURUS WAGON 03 F150 XLT SUPER CREW 4X4 SHORT BOX Member: PACIFIC COAST MUSTANG ASSOCIATION Member:Vancouver Island Mustang Association M&M #1710 65 FASTBACK 2003 F150 XLT SUPER CREW 4X4 
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	V8 Thumper Gearhead Posts: 4777 From: Phoenix, Arizona Registered: Dec 2001 
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posted 07-20-2006 03:18 PM    
          
 Much more critical with an aluminum manifold due to its metalurgic properties vs. cast iron...  The heat cycles will expand and contrat the manifold every time you start and drive the car, causing the bolt threads to be constantly yanked back and forth, thus requiring periodic re-torquing for proper clamping force and gasket seal  ------------------ 1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9"  12.58/110 on street tires, more to come;) All Blue Oval, no blue bottle    http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/V8Thumper.html 
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	johnmustang Gearhead Posts: 6748 From:  British Columbia , Canada Registered: Nov 2001 
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posted 07-20-2006 06:45 PM    
          
  quote: Originally posted by V8 Thumper: Much more critical with an aluminum manifold due to its metalurgic properties vs. cast iron...  The heat cycles will expand and contrat the manifold every time you start and drive the car, causing the bolt threads to be constantly yanked back and forth, thus requiring periodic re-torquing for proper clamping force and gasket seal   
  So how often should they be re-torqued?  What is the proper torque, about 18lbs?  I have a performer RPM on my Fastback 289 and now I think that maybe I should start looking at and doing this. How many times can you re-torque with out having to change the gaskets? I also have a buddy that is just changing his stock manifold to the same one I have, in his 66 coupe 289, so I will also pass this information along to him. ------------------  JOHN 65 FASTBACK 2+2...14.44 @ 107 MPH  87 TAURUS WAGON 03 F150 XLT SUPER CREW 4X4 SHORT BOX Member: PACIFIC COAST MUSTANG ASSOCIATION Member:Vancouver Island Mustang Association M&M #1710 65 FASTBACK 2003 F150 XLT SUPER CREW 4X4 
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