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drof84
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From: gillette
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posted 05-08-2006 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for drof84   Click Here to Email drof84     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have a 351 w bored 30 over with edelbrock intake and 1406 carb. i have made all the adjustment on the carb and i can not get the carb to run lean enough to stop black smoke from coming out the exhaust. i think there is something wrong with the carb. I put a rebuild kit in it already

any one have a idea
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zieber
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posted 05-10-2006 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zieber   Click Here to Email zieber     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Carburetors are tricky. You have to start with a good core, don't take it apart too far, rebuild it carefully, and do all the adjustments. Good luck.

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KILLER65
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posted 05-10-2006 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KILLER65   Click Here to Email KILLER65     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hate those carbs from edelbrock. when through two on my dads 57 hardtop and it would not run right. I told him to get a holley and it solved the problem. I have also had bad experiences with demon carbs.

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V8 Thumper
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posted 05-10-2006 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Assuming that the smoke is in fact fuel... what is your fuel pressure?

How did you plumb the PVC vac port? That's the big vac tube on the front and/or rear of the carb.

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Aussie XAXB
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posted 05-10-2006 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aussie XAXB   Click Here to Email Aussie XAXB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What color is the smoke, black or bluish white? Or just plain white?

Does it only smoke at idle or at all speeds?

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drof84
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posted 05-12-2006 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for drof84   Click Here to Email drof84     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the smoke is a black or brown color. it does not smoke all the time. it only smokes when in hard throttle and shift. it seams to me it only does it when the rear barrels open up. i have tried to put smaller jets in and metering rods to lean it down but it will not work. do you think if i advance it 16 to 17 degrees it will help. how do you know if you timing advance is working.

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Aussie XAXB
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posted 05-13-2006 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aussie XAXB   Click Here to Email Aussie XAXB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What cfm is the carb?

With the color of smoke that is definately a rich mixture problem. The air valve on the Edelbrocks can be tricky to adjust. If it is not opening enough during hard acceleration then it will cause a lean condition.

There are three circuits on a carb; idle, part throttle, and wide open or hard acceleration. It would seem to be limited to the wide open circuit. I am not real up to speed on Edelbrock carbs but learned some about Carter carbs before Edelbrock bought them.

As for what others are saying...

"I am running a 1406 on my 73 with a 392. It runs great. It was quite rich stock and had to be jetted down. I am very happy with mine."

"I have jetted my 1406 lean and run it leaner than stock all the way to sea level. But it will cause is to act up it worked hard.
But I have never got it to run so that the pipes are not black and sooty. I have had them clean up with the Holley that came with the truck but not since running the 1406."

"One often over looked feature on these carbs is the springs under the metering rods. Many bogging and other problems like poor fuel milage can be cured by playing with the springs. Weaker springs give you better fuel economy, but may cause a slight bit of bogging. Strong springs give you less milage, a little more power, but can cause a little stumble if it gets too rich. Something else to consider and play with after you think you have the right metering rods."

So it sounds like your problem is a common one. Sounds like a mixture between jets and rods.

Do a search on "edelbrock 1406 rich carb" and see what people have been doing to cure your problem.

On a side note, I bought a BG Road Demon and after adjusting idle mixture and speed it is working perfectly right out of the box.

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