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66 fastback
Gearhead

Posts: 223
From: Califon, NJ 07830
Registered: Oct 2003

posted 02-20-2006 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66 fastback        Reply w/Quote
I am in the midst of installing EFI on my clone. Here is a link to some photos of my progress thus far. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/597572/7

One more fuel line to install and the plumbing will be completed. I have all of the wiring for the sensors and injectors under the hood finished. I am also installing a Gear Vendor overdrive unit. Once it is bolted in place I will finish the wiring under the dashboard. I am also re-routing the original wiring under the hood so it is hidden from sight. I am beginning to feel like an electrician with all of the connections these projects require.

For those interested here is a link to the fuel injection kit I am installing, http://www.mass-floefi.com/index.html

And one to the overdrive unit, http://www.gearvendors.com/index.html

I was going to install an AOD, but came to find that I would need new headers, the resulting exhaust work, a trans able to handle the 430 # of torque my stroker has, and the rest of the conversion parts. After adding up the costs of all these items the GV overdrive was not that different. Besides, I'll have the ability to have a 6 speed trans with this GV overdrive, not just 4 like the AOD has.

Let me know what you think and if you have some suggestions please give them, thanks.

SundanceKid
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Posts: 1302
From: UT
Registered: Feb 2001

posted 02-20-2006 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SundanceKid        Reply w/Quote
Very clean! I've been looking into their kit.

What is the original application of the mass flow sensor? If it breaks can you find a replacement at a local parts store?

Did the kit include everything you needed to install it?

Jake11
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Posts: 246
From: Banning,Ca,USA
Registered: Oct 2005

posted 02-20-2006 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jake11        Reply w/Quote

Looks like a nice setup. Does it use an
O2 sensor?

66 fastback
Gearhead

Posts: 223
From: Califon, NJ 07830
Registered: Oct 2003

posted 02-20-2006 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66 fastback        Reply w/Quote
The sensor this kit uses is a GM sensor, they claim that it is modified and must purchased thru them if you must replace it. They took the time to grind off the numbers on the sensor, but do include a slip of paper with some test numbers. They state that it is important to retain this paper should service parts be needed in the future. All of the other parts however are over the counter parts, so any parts store should have them in stock.

Their web site outlines all that is included, I purchased a fuel pump, filter, lines and made brackets. The throttle body is intended to be used with a cable, like those in the 69 and later Mustangs. I really wanted to keep the "vintage" look so I worked hard to make the original bell-crank work. After having a 1 1/2" extension welded to the top of the arm it works, doing it this way took care of the kickdown at the same time.

The whole kit is very well made, since the harness is "universal" it is long, hence to loop on the underside of the computer bracket. I am really looking forward to starting this thing up.......

lonewolf
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Posts: 419
From: Colorado; M&M #3117
Registered: Jul 2003

posted 02-20-2006 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lonewolf        Reply w/Quote
Keep me posted on how you like the system. I have been checking into it for the Mustang and it seems like a great setup.

Thanks,

Rick

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1968 Coupe in Pieces
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Waiting for Voodoo, a Factory Five Roadster Kit

Jake11
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Posts: 246
From: Banning,Ca,USA
Registered: Oct 2005

posted 02-21-2006 03:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jake11        Reply w/Quote
O2 sensors are interchangable. Mainly two
types, 1-wire and 4-wire type. They all work
the same. The 4-wire have a heater in them.
That's a good system then. You have fuel
trim built into it. MAF is more accurate than MAP or "speed density" as they call it.
The omly thing to cause trouble are bad ground circuits and voltage spikes. Replace
the starter solenoid with a later one made
for theEECIV system. It has a resistor in it
to stop the spike when you start it.

66 fastback
Gearhead

Posts: 223
From: Califon, NJ 07830
Registered: Oct 2003

posted 02-21-2006 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66 fastback        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jake11:

Looks like a nice setup. Does it use an
O2 sensor?

It used two 4 wire O2 sensors, again regular off the shelf Ford parts. I'll look into the solenoid issue, I'm not sure if I need it really as I am using a Ford mini starter.

68 S-code GT
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From: Sayreville, NJ, US
Registered: Mar 2000

posted 02-21-2006 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT        Reply w/Quote
I was wondering how things were going!

I thought that I read on their site that Mass Flow Sensor was from a Corvette.

[This message has been edited by 68 S-code GT (edited 02-22-2006).]

rdinmv
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Posts: 163
From: orange county CA
Registered: Feb 2004

posted 02-23-2006 05:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rdinmv        Reply w/Quote
I believe thhe only gm product is the MAF sensor which is a z-28 item modified and using a special box to convert thhe gm signal to ford. all othher sensors are suposed to be stock ford. I hhave been following the mass flo even before it was aavailabe.

I am looking into this setup as well, I look forward to hhearing about the end result.
my 67 vert http://htwheelz.smugmug.com

68 S-code GT
Gearhead

Posts: 3835
From: Sayreville, NJ, US
Registered: Mar 2000

posted 02-24-2006 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT        Reply w/Quote
So does this look like a Ford part?

66 fastback
Gearhead

Posts: 223
From: Califon, NJ 07830
Registered: Oct 2003

posted 02-24-2006 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66 fastback        Reply w/Quote
That is the GM air flow sensor, the wires from it go to a small box that changes the signal to something the Ford computer can recognize. I don't know if the throttle position sensor is a custom piece or not. The air filter is a Ford Motorsport unit, the only mod it requires is a hole for the wires from the mass sensor.

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