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kinger44
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posted 11-17-2005 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kinger44   Click Here to Email kinger44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to have a 347 built for my 68. I have the perfect guy to do it. But I know little about this stuff and his area of expertise is Mopars. So, I want recommendations on parts. From block to pistons to crank to whatever! Tell me what to use and what NOT to use please. The car will be a show car, cruiser. With that said I still want as much HP as I can get within a reasonable budget. Any help greatly appreciated!

Regards,

Gregg

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Jake11
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posted 11-19-2005 06:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jake11   Click Here to Email Jake11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Throw away the small block and get an
"FE". Then your "show car" will get a lot
of people noticing it. Then you'll want to
drive it instead of look at it.

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Scott H
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posted 11-19-2005 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott H   Click Here to Email Scott H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gregg,
I can't help you with the specifics of what you asked, but I would offer some free advice, keeping in mind that free advice is only worth what you paid for it!

Don't have a Mopar guy try to build you a Ford stroker engine. At this point you alredy know more about it than he does. Isn't that kind of scary?

Also, horsepower doesn't come cheap. That's the Law of Going Fast. In order to get the kind of power you are dreaming of you'll need to invest a wheelbarrow full of money. If you try to do it inexpensively you will most likely be disappointed in the results.

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gmliebau
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posted 11-19-2005 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gmliebau   Click Here to Email gmliebau     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Try this link. It will probably be cheaper to buy a 347 than have one built.

http://www.tandlengines.com/Street_Engines/347_Ford/347_ford.html

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Moneymaker
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posted 11-19-2005 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The FRPP 347 short block is sold at a great price.

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kinger44
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posted 11-19-2005 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kinger44   Click Here to Email kinger44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
The FRPP 347 short block is sold at a great price.



Where do I see this? Is there a link I can follow?

Thanks to all who have replied!

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Fastymz
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posted 11-19-2005 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kinger44:

Where do I see this? Is there a link I can follow?

Thanks to all who have replied!

Gregg


Summitracing.com

part number # FMS-M-6009-C347

or,

http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=6190

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kinger44
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posted 11-19-2005 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kinger44   Click Here to Email kinger44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, something doesn't seem right here. For $3,100 I can get a shortblock, or for $3,700 I can get a complete engine with dyno results. Hmmmm, something isn't working for me here. I realize that T&L engine isn't turnkey, but comparing the list of parts, it had Dart heads, distributor, oil pan, valve covers, water pump, harmonic balancer and spark plug wires included. Plus the labour to install them all.

I don't understand.

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Fastymz
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posted 11-19-2005 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FRPP-5.0L 2-bolt Sportsman block M-6009-B50
Forged aluminum .030" overbore pistons with valve reliefs for Z304, N351, GT-40 and other inline valve Windsor cylinder heads. Valve notches approximately 4cc. Check valve to piston clearance for valve lift over .500". Piston to deck .000" (nominal)
3.40 stroke forged steel stroker crank
M-6200-D50 forged steel connecting rods
Clevite? rod and main bearings
Balanced for 28.2 in./oz. damper and flywheel
Assembled and ready for your heads, cam and timing chain set


TL- 3.400" Scat cast steel crankshaft
- 4340 5.400" Scat I-beam forged steel rods
- Clevite 77 rod and main bearings
- Plasma moly Hastings piston rings
- Keith Black hyperuetectic pistons

The FRPP motor uses forged crank,pistons. That should explain some of the cost difference.

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65Acode
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posted 11-19-2005 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65Acode   Click Here to Email 65Acode     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I figure the FRPP short block uses a new versus "seasoned" block too. I personally wouldn't care about that though. The T&L description says they pressure test the block and all.

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