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stc65coupe351w
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posted 11-12-2005 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stc65coupe351w   Click Here to Email stc65coupe351w     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

My neighbor took his 64/65 Mustang to have the engine rebuilt. He was told it was already bored .40 over and the walls were pitted pretty bad plus he had a cracked head. He is getting a replacement long block bored .10 over. He was a driver for Coca-Cola and has a hard on for red and the shop doing the engine work said he could paint the block any color he wished. They said that red was a standard color for his model.
My question is I had thought red was used for the 6 cylinder and blue for the 289. He wants the color to be correct and is going by the word of the shop doing the work. I have never seen a 289 in red so I thought I would ask.

Also the reason I do not know the year is that it has a alt with a alt light in the dash, plus the horns are mounted like the 65. It was first sold in 10-64 and his vin is 128,000 where my 65 is 720,000 in number. I figured someone converted the gen to alt but do not know enough of the differences to be sure.

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gmliebau
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posted 11-12-2005 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gmliebau   Click Here to Email gmliebau     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't answer your question about the year of the car, but I may be able to shead some light on the block color. Unless I'm wrong, 289s in '64 1/2 and '65 were black. Dark Ford Blue was used beginning in '66. Then, I think, Ford switched to Corporate later in the '60s.

Someone will be along to correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure my '65s motor is supposed to be black. It's Ford blue, but it's supposed to be black.

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Dave Gibson
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posted 11-12-2005 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Gibson   Click Here to Email Dave Gibson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, '65 289s are suppose to be black with gold valve covers and gold air cleaner. Red was used on '6 cylinder cars.

As for the date of the car, it is a '65.

Dave & Terri

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mellowyellow
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posted 11-12-2005 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ford Corporate Blue was THE color on 66 through into the Mustang II's. It is available in Duplicolor, Plasticote #224. These are dead on correct rattle can colors for 66 on. 65 was black

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Fastback68
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posted 11-13-2005 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Dark Ford Blue was used beginning in '66. Then, I think, Ford switched to Corporate later in the '60s.

Incomplete research which some of you are painfully familiar with!!! ...
There have been two Corporate Blues in Ford's history. Ford Dark Blue is a term which has been adopted by some paint makers and applied to the first Corporate Blue, to distinguish it from the later one. The first Corporate Blue was used until the '50s, I believe, but in any event was never used on Mustangs.
DISCLAIMER: This may be a crock

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stc65coupe351w
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posted 11-13-2005 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stc65coupe351w   Click Here to Email stc65coupe351w     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:

As for the date of the car, it is a '65.

Dave & Terri

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I knew I would get the correct answer here. Thanks for the quick help. I knew it was not red and read somewhere that black was used but not sure on which Mustangs.
The reason I had wondered about the year is I have the rectangle speedometer on my 65 and the vin is in the 700.000's where his in only 128,000. So if I had a early 65 and I thought there were around 600,000 made in 64 1/2....that would be about right with my vin being in the early 700,000's. I also read somewhere that all of the 64 1/2 Mustangs state 65 on the pink slips. I only know of a few differences from the two years and everything seems 65. Just the low vin is what I am stuck on. But then what do I know.
Thanks all and I will pass on the info to him so he can paint it correctly.

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Scott H
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posted 11-13-2005 03:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott H   Click Here to Email Scott H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How bout another wrinkle on color options...

The '64 1/2' mustangs were all titled by Ford as 65's.

The 64 1/2 was available with either a 270 6 cylinder, which was black with red valve cover and air cleaner, or a 260 2 barrel, which was black with light/medium blue valve covers and air cleaner, or the optional D-code 289 four barrel which was black with gold valve covers and air cleaner.

I haven't done much research on Mercury, but I understand their colors for the 289 were black and red.

And of course there were the 289 HiPo cars which would have had chrome valve covers and air cleaners.

After the first 6 months of mustang production the 260 was dropped in favor of the 289 2 barrel in black & gold for the duration of the model run. In 66 all engines were done in the darker Ford blue, known as Corporate Blue as it tends to match the blue in the Ford script logo.

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stc65coupe351w
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posted 11-13-2005 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stc65coupe351w   Click Here to Email stc65coupe351w     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Everyone,
And he was so excited about painting it red so it would be correct.

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