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iamonewithjustin
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posted 11-09-2005 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iamonewithjustin   Click Here to Email iamonewithjustin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK... So my dogs wake me up at 3am last night. I can't figure out why they are going so crazy. I go to let them outside and I notice that my garage goor has been opened. When I go out to my garage a man jumps out of my mustang.. points a gun at me and runs away. When I looked at my mustang I realized he was minutes from driving it away. There is alot of damage to the steering column. He left a hammer, screwdriver and chisel in the car when he ran. You can imagine what kind of damage that combination can do. The end of the ignition lock is broken off, steering column is bent and smashed up. My car alarm was on the floor next to the car(thief went under the hood and removed it before he entered the car apparently).

How do I get the lock cylinder out? The service manual says it must be put in the ON position to remove it. This is impossible since the mechanism it's self is destroyed and stuck in the column.

Where is the best place to get a new column.
This car is my daily driver. I need to get it drivable ASAP. If I can get a new lock cylinder in it, that will be all I need to get it drivable.

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rmousir
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posted 11-09-2005 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rmousir   Click Here to Email rmousir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
man that sucks. Sorry but I have no idea how to get the ignition out any other way but a new column can be had at any of the mustang vendors. maybe you can upgrade?

Will your ins cover the damage?

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Fastback68
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posted 11-09-2005 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeeearrgh!!!!! My worst nightmare. I hope the guy left some prints.
I'm surprised he had to cause so much damage. Without publishing this info on the web, I think you'll find any electrician (or ex-auto thief!) over the age of 40 can show you how to start your car without the ignition switch.
And then it's time for extra security measures. I believe it would take a car thief at least an hour to steal mine, unless he got lucky, and even then he could only drive a couple of miles. My biggest fear is the damage he would do to it through anger!

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iamonewithjustin
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posted 11-09-2005 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iamonewithjustin   Click Here to Email iamonewithjustin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yea.. I am lucky he didn't know what he was doing.. that was obvious. I drove my car today... all I had to do was push the little bar that leads from the lock cylinder to the ignition switch to the right position... it started right up. If he knew what he was doing he would have realized that he had done enough damage to the column that he could have done the same. On the other hand since he didn't know what he was doing he used the "brute force" method which caused alot of damage to the column. You can see where he was trying to pry it apart at every location possible.

Do you think one of them removable steering wheels from grant would be a good investment? Maybe someone will be not try to steal the car if there is no wheel present.

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posted 11-09-2005 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Toronado3800     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Or an alarm with a trigger for the hood! You many never be prepared enough for a real professional thief. Funny thing is, if the fella broke into your garage you'd think he did it after knowing what you park in there and would have done his homework. I do like the removeable wheel idea. A starter or ignition kill switch isn't a bad idea either (I like the ignition because then the car cranks but just doesn't start for some reason). If you park your ride for a week or two at a time you may even take off a plug wire or two.

By the way, did you call the cops and how interested were they?

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ericcasas
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posted 11-09-2005 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ericcasas   Click Here to Email ericcasas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DUDE!! That is CRAZY!!! I think I would still be crappin my pants if that happened to me. What if he tries to come back! Do you own a gun?

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wi21ll
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posted 11-09-2005 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wi21ll   Click Here to Email wi21ll     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MAN THAT SUCKS. Do you have window on your gargage? If not, than someone knew that there was a stang in the stall. I'm thinking that this was a local job...someone wanted your ride. Thank god for your dogs...I'd invest in shotgun.

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68mustang351w
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posted 11-09-2005 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68mustang351w   Click Here to Email 68mustang351w     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah shotgun. Mossbergs are suppose to be pretty good, easy to keep up and things like that. Theres nothing like the sound (clock clock) to scare someone away. I would add a fuel shut off valve if i were you. They sell them through summit @ http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=400041+4294848614
The couple of times I left the valve closed, I was not able to get more than 1/2 to 3/4 of a block from my house before all the fuel ran out. I also use the "autolock" (available at most auto parts stores), have a chain through the hood with a lock on it. As someone mentioned, it has to be someone that knew what was there, most people steal imports for parts not American Muscle usually. Yeah. Well luckily you still have your baby... David F.

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laxman41
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posted 11-09-2005 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for laxman41     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No need to bother taking a plug wire or two out, just take the coil to distributor wire off!!!

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Fastback Nation
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posted 11-10-2005 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback Nation   Click Here to Email Fastback Nation     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by laxman41:
No need to bother taking a plug wire or two out, just take the coil to distributor wire off!!!

Sorry, won't work: you could just take off a plug wire and use it as the dizzy-to-coil wire instead. It'll run rough, but it'll move.
Yeah, sorry to hear about all the damage. Early Fords, Mustangs included, can be jacked with nothing more than small length of wire and a screw driver or other piece of metal. Won't go into it for obvious reasons, but lets just say that if this guy had known anything about anything, there'd be no damage, but there'd also be no car since it's so simple and quick to do 'right'. Scary man, I feel for you. Might want to keep the stang at a friend's or family members house for awhile. Good luck.

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lcl
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posted 11-10-2005 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lcl   Click Here to Email lcl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1) Good thing your O.K.
2) Motion detecting lights on garage (fairly inexpensive), cowards don't like being seen (the yellow bellied b******s).
3) Throw the dogs a bone.
4) Any gun is intimidating, even if it isn't loaded (especially if it's pointed at you).
5) Were the police able to lift any prints?
6) Unfortunatly it sounds like you were staked out.

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Fastback68
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posted 11-10-2005 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if this will open a can of worms, a.k.a. the great gun debate, but if iamonewithjustin (that's a mouthful ) had been carrying a gun, in all likelihood he would have been shot first. No?

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posted 11-10-2005 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lcl   Click Here to Email lcl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fastback68, fortunately we don't know! Don't want to debate, I have my guns to protect my family not myself plus property can be replaced, lives can not!

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sigtauenus
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posted 11-10-2005 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sigtauenus   Click Here to Email sigtauenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Fastback68:
I don't know if this will open a can of worms, a.k.a. the great gun debate, but if iamonewithjustin (that's a mouthful ) had been carrying a gun, in all likelihood he would have been shot first. No?

Simon, don't want to steer this thread away, we can discuss over at Sam's Place if you want, but I have a similar experience in Haiti along the lines of what you were saying... and I am very much a proponent of guns in the home.

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I'm just happy you were not hurt. I don't really know what I would do in a situation like this, but if it would save me/my family, he can have the car. As far as a Gun, they can be a good thing, if you aren't afraid to use them.

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exlocal
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posted 11-10-2005 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for exlocal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Brake/clutch pedal locking bar and bigger dogs. I also have guns for home protection, but due to this sue crazy society, would only use as a last resort. I knew a co-worker who bought her son a custom low rider. He was shot during a car theft, but luckily he survived. She was shook up for many days. Glad no one was hurt.

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sigtauenus
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posted 11-10-2005 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sigtauenus   Click Here to Email sigtauenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iamonewithjustin:
Do you think one of them removable steering wheels from grant would be a good investment? Maybe someone will be not try to steal the car if there is no wheel present.

First, like has been said already, glad you and the family are ok. Forget bones or treats, buy those dogs a porterhouse and let them have at it.

As for preventative measures, how did this guy get in the garage? Do you not have an automatic opener or did he come in through the window or side door? If you do have an automatic opener, is it one of the older models that are easier to decode? If you don't have one at all, or an older model, you might want to consider upgrading to a new model with frequency agility. They basically skip frequencies around so that a burglar cannot attempt multiple frequencies and get lucky with the right one that opens your door up like they can with older models.

Motion sensor lights are good too, but place it well and use a reasonable size light bulb. Our neighbor behind us has a motion sensor light, must be like 5 million candlepower though because his dog sets it off like 20 times every night and it lights up our bedroom its so bright. Yes, I'm exagerating a little, but still pretty dang annoying.

I don't think there's anything you can do to stop somebody who wants your car bad enough, but there's plenty you can do to stop a thief of opportunity. Some guys will stop if they just see the club in there, others will have a saw in their "kit." Some guys will stop when they try to turn the car over and it won't start, others will pop the hood to see why. The fuel line will work great for most guys, until you get the guy who thought of it and shoves a 2 gallon tank beside the windshield washer bag and hooks up a 3' rubber line direct to the fuel pump.

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posted 11-10-2005 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for buening   Click Here to Email buening     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That does suck. No matter what you do to the car, someone with a flatbed will get your car. Now the common thief that tries to drive it away can be prevented.

If your car is a manual trans, use the clutch stop bar as mentioned above. If it is an auto, use a shifter handle that has the key on the right dummy knob. NPD has them for $40. The fella can't shift out of park even if he gets it started.

Another deterrent, and i think it is a good one, is install a ignition cut-off switch. A neat one that i have heard someone using is wiring the cutoff switch through the cigar lighter. With the ligher removed, the ignition has been cut off. With the lighter in place the ignition works fine. Or you can try to hide a switch somewhere, but a thief will find that switch unless it is really hidden.

If you don't care about originality, move the battery AND the solenoid to the trunk. That way they can't hot-wire it from the coil to the solenoid.

Car alarms, well you found out the hard way. They are useless if the theif is good. Even if the alarm has a hood latch switch, if the theif knows there is an alarm all he has to do is crawl under the car and unhook the batter cable and then proceed to disable the alarm so he can hook the power up. If the battery is in the trunk then this will be a problem for him.

If you have an electric fuel pump, install a cutoff switch to that too.

Sure some of these things will add a few seconds of work to start the car each time, but its better than not having the car at all. Just a few tips and i'm sure there are many more.

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TOPDowNMUSTANG
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posted 11-10-2005 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TOPDowNMUSTANG   Click Here to Email TOPDowNMUSTANG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iamonewithjustin:
Where is the best place to get a new column.
This car is my daily driver. I need to get it drivable ASAP. If I can get a new lock cylinder in it, that will be all I need to get it drivable.

What year is your Mustang? I have a 73 column laying around.

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wi21ll
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posted 11-10-2005 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wi21ll   Click Here to Email wi21ll     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Battery Cut off switch...20.00
Motion activated light...20.00
12GA shotgun............120.00
Shotgun shells...........20.00

Filling some thief's pants full of lead as he's running away....priceless.

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iamonewithjustin
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posted 11-10-2005 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iamonewithjustin   Click Here to Email iamonewithjustin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok... first of all TOPDowNMUSTANG you have mail.. my pony is a '73 also.

Second I actually do have a 12ga in my closet. If I knew it was a man in my garage with my car I would have got it. (even though all I have laying around is deer slugs) It is probally safe to say that the criminal would shoot at me before the honest person shot at the criminal. But at least I would feel better knowing that i could kill him if he did shoot me.
I thought my girlfriend was in there earlier and left the light on and door open.
It was 3am and I was barely awake. I didn't put 2+2 together.. dogs barking + garage open = man stealing car. Needless to say, I was suprised when I stumbled into my garage and got a gun pointed at me.

I didn't mention the damage the thief did to my house. I have an automatic garage door opener. The garage door was locked. He forced the door to lift from the outside which broke the opener, bent the garage door, and pulled/bent the tracks off the wall. I am going to have to replace all of that too. Seeing what he did Im sure he was making ALOT of noise. I must be a sound sleeper.

I'm sure i was stalked. He didn't even try to steal my expensive stero and amps... he just wanted the car. He knew it was locked in my garage.
I didn't lock the car since it was locked in the garage. I am lucky for that. He didn't do any damage to the body trying to get in.

Police got prints, but there is nothing else they could do.

I agree in that there is nothing you can do to PREVENT someone from stealing you car. All you can do is make it harder to steal. This will be fun as I like being clever.

On my jeep I wired a clever little switch. The switch is wired to the crank position sensor. If the computer does not have a signal it will not make a spark. The switch is a magnetic switch like the one ADT uses on their home security systems. The switch is only closed when it is in proximity to a magnet. This switch is on the inside of the metal dash. You have to stick a magnet to a specific position on the dash to close the circut.
Unfourtanately this will not work for my mustang since it uses a distributor, no computer, and has a plastic dash. I have other ideas though.

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iamonewithjustin
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posted 11-10-2005 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iamonewithjustin   Click Here to Email iamonewithjustin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On the bright side of things I am planning a t-5 swap soon. I have all the parts just need the time.
To install the clutch/brake pedal assembly you have to remove the steering column. Sounds like a great time to put a new column in.

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posted 11-10-2005 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for compactford   Click Here to Email compactford     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i used to have a battery cut off switch on a old car of mine.it had a red key for it that was huge. i actually had it under the front bumper of the car and had no problems with everyone seeing me get under the bumper and removing a red key to put in my pocket.

my thought was that since it was only available in a few auto shops it would be enough of a deterant to get rid of the wanna be car thief.

yes i know it wasnt fool proof( all someone needed to do was go get a key)or rewire it, but i felt more secure that the young ones wouldnt be bothered and think it was to hard.

Mate i had a new v8 car stolen it was only 11mths old, and im glad they got away with it, my family and kids sleep real well at night and thats all i care about. its not worth the approach or your life. im soory he damaged youtr pride and joy, but im also glad you still here to tell the tale


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posted 11-10-2005 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HHStang   Click Here to Email HHStang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
are you sure it wasn't that guy that is on Overhaulin and Chip Foose was gonna redo your car?

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posted 11-10-2005 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke   Click Here to Email Ryan Wilke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by HHStang:
are you sure it wasn't that guy that is on Overhaulin and Chip Foose was gonna redo your car?

I'll tell ya what -- ol' Chippy had just better stay away from my hotrod! ..... I don't need nor want him or his bunch of croonies messin' around with it!

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Originally posted by HHStang:
are you sure it wasn't that guy that is on Overhaulin and Chip Foose was gonna redo your car?


Glad you are ok. Thieves suck.

But if Foose came after my baby, he'd be in the bottom of the Mississippi chained to those cartoon wheels he makes.

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posted 11-11-2005 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bbjay351   Click Here to Email bbjay351     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy that you guys are ok. As far as Foose goes, I'd let him have at my car as it is in deperate need of help, and my lack of funds makes it a depressing matter for me. Hope they catch that pussy!!!!

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posted 11-11-2005 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke   Click Here to Email Ryan Wilke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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....if Foose came after my baby, he'd be in the bottom of the Mississippi chained to those cartoon wheels he makes.

Baaaahhhaaaaaaawwwwwwwww!!!!!!!
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Joe, you're killin' me!!!!!!!!

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This has somewhat been ignored, but the thief was in the garage. That is just a hop away from being in the house. If it were me, I would definitely look at beefing up my perimeter security around the house. Figure out how he got into the garage in the first place and start there. He can't steal something if he can't get to it.

I will take the gun discussion into Sam's place.

Cheers,

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This is the security system i am going to use.
http://www.prostreetonline.com/buy/grant_vehicle_security/
The steering wheel clicks right off and the red cap cliks on. You then use a key to lock it in place if you want too.
I have this on me jeep since it sits in the street with the top off all summer.
The mechanism is very solid... solid metal and at least 3 times thicker than the metal from the column it's self. You can hardly tell it is there too.

I could not imagine a thief being able to steal a car with one of these.

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posted 11-11-2005 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good thing your OK!

I take the rotor out from under the cap, have a kill switch and I keep the car in gear so the neutral safety switch helps some. I also have a switch for the electric fuel pump in my fastback for added measure. I forget what year car you have but that guy must have been a moron. Once that cylinder is mangle I think you either have to get a locksmith or you can get a new switch and cylinder. The locksmith might not help if it?s too chewed up.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ryan Wilke:
I'll tell ya what -- ol' Chippy had just better stay away from my hotrod! ..... I don't need nor want him or his bunch of croonies messin' around with it!

Ryan [/QUOTE
I sure would let him mess round with my '69 since it's into restoration...

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posted 11-11-2005 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ericcasas:
DUDE!! That is CRAZY!!! I think I would still be crappin my pants if that happened to me. What if he tries to come back! Do you own a gun?

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He won't be coming back, thieves are big pussies.

Sorry it happened, man.

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posted 11-11-2005 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for exlocal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
He won't be coming back, thieves are big pussies.

Sorry it happened, man.



I was on a jury panel once where the defendant robbed the same auto parts store twice. He was so stupid, he didn't even wear a mask or disguise either time! The counter guy was tesitfying on the stand and nearly broke into laughter when he identified him for the second time.

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posted 11-14-2005 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ccode67   Click Here to Email ccode67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you do the T-5 swap, use the neutral safety switch wires for a kill switch.

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posted 11-14-2005 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sigtauenus   Click Here to Email sigtauenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lonewolf:
This has somewhat been ignored, but the thief was in the garage. That is just a hop away from being in the house. If it were me, I would definitely look at beefing up my perimeter security around the house. Figure out how he got into the garage in the first place and start there. He can't steal something if he can't get to it.

Rick, great point.

Any ideas yet how the guy got in the garage to begin with?

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posted 11-14-2005 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big D   Click Here to Email Big D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How many of you that have MSD 6 Ignition Systems used the WHITE WIRE as a theft deterent..

I've been going to do it but was aftaid it could cause other problems.. All you have to do is mount it to a switch and then to Ground.. When you turn the switch on,, it goes to ground and won't start.. I don't think to many thieves know about that..

Man,, It would suck to have some crazy sucker pointing a NERVOUS GUN AT YOU..

I saw a show about people breaking into homes,, the home owner heard them,, got their gun out,, told the burglars to leave.. Not only did they NOT LEAVE,, he started coming at the guy and he had to shoot the burglar.. Not a good experience..

That's another reason why you make every effort to keep them out of your property..

I'm a good one to talk,, 6T6 lives in a TENT..

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posted 11-14-2005 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow not sure how missed this,and the part about the gun. First of all I'm glad your ok. People scared with guns are never a good mix. Nothing chases them off like the sound of racking a shot gun. I'm real suprised your dogs braking didn't run him off. Maybe he thought you weren't home? It sucks to have some scum bag cost you money. My dogs can go into the garage when I'm not home. I just hope they would bite the guy before going for a run.
We all know there isn't much you can do if the guy is a pro and he really wants your car.

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posted 11-14-2005 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dobermanalley   Click Here to Email Dobermanalley     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And to think I left my Mustang in the driveway with the window rolled down and the keys in the ignition Saturday night. I was rushed by my wife to get ready to meet friends for dinner and missed that detail while cleaning up.

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posted 11-14-2005 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big D   Click Here to Email Big D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Try leaving your Mustang,, all your tools,, plus odds & ends in a Tent and leave for a week..

My friends are so good about keeping an eye out for my stuff,, that last December when I went to Boise to see my boys,, we had a bad wind storm and it rip up the canopy pretty good..

When I got back,, I noticed someone had tied things down and stablized the situation for me.. It now has wooden walls and floor..

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posted 11-14-2005 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FSTBK65   Click Here to Email FSTBK65     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used the MSD white wire as a kill switch like BigD was talking about. You just run wire to a toggle switch and connect it to ground. Its even fooled me numerous times! Turn the key and then get pissed off because it wont fire and then..."Oh yeah...the kill switch". The Neutral safety switch is a good idea too, I may add one of those too, and I am definately adding a fuel shutoff valve and a hood chain.

I guess keeping a .380 in your console wont do a lot of good in that situation.

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posted 11-15-2005 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stc65coupe351w   Click Here to Email stc65coupe351w     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My white wire is just hanging so it may be a good idea to hook it up. My MSD box is under the dash and I was thinking of just taking out the chip? I had the car for almost a year before I knew it was there. There is a second chip in the ash tray and I always thought it was a radio signal chip for a remote control car. ( I used to have 3 of them and that is what it looked like). Glad I did not throw it away.

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posted 11-21-2005 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike65   Click Here to Email Mike65     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Many years ago when I still had my 68 GT Coupe that was at the time my daily driver I used to pop the dist cap & pull out the dist rotor & then pop the cap back on. The car would just crank & not start & you couldnt tell something was takin off to keep it from running.

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