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iamonewithjustin
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posted 10-26-2005 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iamonewithjustin   Click Here to Email iamonewithjustin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am swapping my brake pedal assembly out for a brake and clutch pedal assembly for a t5 swap. I have a 73 mach. Does anyone know if this can be done without removing the entire dash and steering column?
I was looking at the assembly and how it will be installed and it seems like it will be almost impossible to get this in and around the steering column (1 pedal on each side) without taking the entire car apart.
I just need to know if I need to set aside more than a day for this.

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posted 10-26-2005 02:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That pedal support is also the steering column support and the dash support. The brake booster studs also go through it. Set aside a day for yourself if you're swapping out the entire support.

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buening
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posted 10-26-2005 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for buening   Click Here to Email buening     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, i apologize for my lack of knowledge of the 71 and later mustangs but on the 69/70s the pedal supports are the same. The only difference is between the power and non-power supports. This difference is holes drilled for the power booster, which can be drilled out from the engine bay. On a 69/70, the non-power brake pedal and clutch pedal use the bushings on the support. On the power brake cars, the brake pedal is mounted much higher but the clutch pedal is mounted in the same location. My guess is, if you aren't adding power brakes or doing anything with the brake system besides the pedal itself then you can do this with the dash intact. I converted my car to power discs and was able to install the pedal and booster with the interior intact. Will it be easier to do the conversion with the dash and column removed? Yes. Is it required? Probably not, assuming it is the same as the 69/70 cars.

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68 S-code GT
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posted 10-28-2005 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
67-68s are also basically the same way as the 69-70s. Are the 71-73s really different between manual and automatic transmissions?

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iamonewithjustin
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posted 10-28-2005 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iamonewithjustin   Click Here to Email iamonewithjustin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For 71-73 the manual and auto cars were different. The auto has just a brake pedal (obviously) and the manuals used a clutch pedal which is part of the brake pedal assembly and support braket. You have to change the brake pedal and the entire assembly that is between the firewall and steering column to one from a car that originally had a toploader in order to install the clutch.
The support bracket sits on top of the steering column and bolts through the firewall to the brake booster (as ddento said). It has to be installed from above the steering column with on pedal slippind down on each side of the steering column.

I'll take the advice and leave at least a day to change the pedal.
It's funny how things work... Changing just the pedal may take as long as , if not longer than changing the transmission it's self.

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