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mach1driver
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From: charlotte nc
Registered: Aug 2004

posted 03-02-2005 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mach1driver   Click Here to Email mach1driver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anybody see the muscle car shoot out on SPEED the other night? They had all the top cars of the late 60's early 70's. they did a 0 to 60 and a quarter mile. the 69 Boss 429 whipped 'em all!
There was a chevelle 454 LS, OLDS 442, challenger with a hemi, amx 390, javelin, GTO judge.
These were all stock cars.

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68mustang351w
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From: San Diego
Registered: Sep 2004

posted 03-02-2005 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68mustang351w   Click Here to Email 68mustang351w     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah they've been repeating it for a while now... i still catch it whenever i can for some odd reason. Good clean fun... David F.

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kinger44
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From: Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Sep 2004

posted 03-02-2005 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kinger44   Click Here to Email kinger44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, my Mopar friends are still whining about the guy frying the clutch on their car. I rub salt every chance I get!

Gregg

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Fastback68
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From: Sucat, Paranaque, Philippines
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posted 03-03-2005 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd read that Boss 429s were real slugs. Obviously it's all relative! So this was the stock, street, commercially available, detuned Boss Mustang and it kicked butt?

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68 Coop
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From: Mesquite, NV.
Registered: Oct 2004

posted 03-03-2005 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 Coop   Click Here to Email 68 Coop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, they had them as close to factory specs as possible, and the Boss kicked butt.

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SteveLaRiviere
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From: Saco, Maine
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posted 03-03-2005 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Fastback68:
I'd read that Boss 429s were real slugs. Obviously it's all relative! So this was the stock, street, commercially available, detuned Boss Mustang and it kicked butt?

The Boss 429 were supposed to be soggy on the bottom end due to their huge 2.5" intake ports and relatively mild cam, but if a guy knows how to launch them, they could get up and boogie. Supposedly, the 375 hp was rumored to be about 125 hp shy of the truth, I read once where some guy pulled a stock Boss 429 out of a car and it dynoed right at 500 hp.

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mellowyellow
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posted 03-05-2005 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There was a bit of cheating in all the big 3 camps back then. The shootouts in M&Fords were interesting, also.

One of the probs with the 429 was that they often broke. Read where this is/was a reason why low mileage 429's were available.

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RICKS
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From: Ocala, FL
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posted 03-07-2005 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RICKS   Click Here to Email RICKS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, I would attribute typically low mileage to the fact that the cars were never purchased to be "daily drivers" by the original owners. They were instant collectibles, and with a 3.91 standard rear gear, you weren't going far in a Boss 429. They were mostly bought as "toys", and drag racers, hence the low mileage. I would blame the "breakage" reputation on the hard beatings so many got at the dragstrip, not on the mill itself. Just about anything made in the 60's, when relagated to purely dragstrip and weekend warrior duty, tended to explode prematurely. My car was purchased new by a wealthy Italian car collector who simply "liked" the Boss 429, and kept it in air conditioned storage with his high-dollar stuff, ran a cammer 427 in it for awhile, and then re-installed the original 429 after a performance buildup. It lived a fairly pampered life. You see Boss 429's typically in three ways,

1. Pampered and low-mile

2. Beaten within an inch of its life on the dragstrip and low-mile

3. Driven into the ground and high-mile.

#3 is the rarest scenario for the 3.91 geared, no a/c, fuel-thirsty Boss.

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