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Big D
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From: WELLS, NEVADA USA
Registered: Nov 2000

posted 10-14-2004 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big D        Reply w/Quote
BE VERY CAUTIOUS USING SCOTCHBRITE
TO CLEAN ENGINE PARTS.

I ran into this article last night.. While I'm sure some of you already know about how destructive Scotchbrite can be,, I wasn't aware of it,, and we've used the stuff prepping surfaces bunches.. So I thought I'd share it with everyone just in case.. And,, I am sure some of you might argue with the articles validity,, that's okay also..
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The best recommendation is to take any scotchbrite pads you have and hide them away if you even think of working on or near your engine.

Scotchbrite pads are frequently used to clean surfaces of gasket material prior to assembly. Scotchbrite works good for this and seems absolutely harmless yet it is probably the (un-known)cause of more unsuccessful repairs to engines than anyone realizes.

Scotchbright pads are a nylon substraight with 40 micron aluminum oxide particles embedded in the nylon. Any dust or debris from the scotchbrite will get in the oil and destroy the bearings. Even using scotch brite on the same work bench and getting the dust on parts is enough.

The failure mode of the scotchbrite is that the aluminum oxide particles get in the oil and get imbedded in the bearing material. The engine runs fine as typically the oil film in the bearing is greater/thicker than the particle is. If the engine sees high load/high RPM and/or the oil gets hot the bearing film thickness is reduced and now the particle can come into contact with the crank surface. It sill rapidly machine the cranksurface until the beraing clearance is too great, the bearing pounds out and fails and the owner/mechanic blames the stupid engine. It was really the stupid scotchbrite......

This is so common a failure that the engine re-manufacturers continually run warnings in their publications about the dangers of scotchbrite. If you use it clean the parts thoroughly before assemble and do not use it on deck surfaces or head surfaces at all where it can fall into the coolant jackets or oil passages and not be noticed.

I have personally witnessed MANY engine failures that were eventually traced to aluminum oxide contamination from scotchbrite. It seems so harmless so it is commonly used yet it's deadly to an engine.

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Don
6T6 Fastback
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65ponycar
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Posts: 873
From: Dayton, OH
Registered: Jul 2003

posted 10-15-2004 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65ponycar        Reply w/Quote

Thanks Big D!

johnmustang
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Posts: 6748
From: British Columbia , Canada
Registered: Nov 2001

posted 10-16-2004 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnmustang        Reply w/Quote
Good to know, thanks Don

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JOHN
65 FASTBACK 2+2.....14.44 @ 107mph 1/4
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SIXD9R
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Posts: 20
From: Allentown, Pa
Registered: Mar 2003

posted 10-17-2004 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SIXD9R        Reply w/Quote
Great topic!
I don't think there is any harm in using Scotch Brite pads for cleaning engine parts. The real key is proper cleaning afterwards. I build high speed cryogenic turbo expanders for a living that rotate at speeds up to 90,000 RPM and sometimes higher on oil feed Babbitt bearings. Both fixed geometry and tilt pad designs. We actually use Scotch Brite pads once in a while to do some minor cleaning to used bearings. Our machines are intended to run 24/7/365 for 10 years or more with only occasionally shutdowns. In fact we have had them run for 15-20 years on occasion with proper care. See the link below.

Have Fun!


http://www.airproducts.com/Products/Equipment/CryoMachinery/default.htm

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mellowyellow
Gearhead

Posts: 8198
From: So. Fl.
Registered: Aug 2000

posted 10-17-2004 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow        Reply w/Quote
As far as bodywork goes, Scotchbrite pads have their uses. One thing to know, different color scotchbrites mean different grits.

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