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trashline
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posted 04-08-2004 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trashline   Click Here to Email trashline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how the heck do you take a 2 speed auto off a 200ci. i removed all four bolts holding it on and two that were holding the top flywheel cover on. i have it so the tranny can move around the motor if it is stationary and it is out of all the pegs from the block but i cant get it off the output shaft from the motor. do i go in there and pry the hell out of it?

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Tom G
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posted 04-08-2004 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom G   Click Here to Email Tom G     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unbolt the torque converter and pry it back towards the trans. It may be just stuck on the pegs. Make sure the starter is out also. I just thought of something, you aren't trying to unbolt trans from bellhousing are you? You should remove the bellhousing to block bolts. I am not sure of how many block bolts you have though. give me an email with your ph# I can call 215 area for free from home RCN
Good luck
Tom

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67 Mustang F/B 302 GT-40X FMS Crate engine T5, cable clutch conversion Flowmasters X Pipe 4.11 9". Clear water Aqua GT Clone 13.39 on 205/70/14 BFG @104 mph 03 Focus ZX3 BORLA exhaust Wings West spoiler (Arrest ME RED)

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ddenton749
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posted 04-08-2004 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ddenton749   Click Here to Email ddenton749     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Try taking the torque converter off with the transmission. Remove the bolts/nuts from the flex plate. You can turn the engine using the balancer bolt to get all the bolts.

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trashline
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posted 04-08-2004 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trashline   Click Here to Email trashline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well this is my cell 267-249-5969 its like my phone line i can see inside the tranny and when i pry the flywheel moves

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posted 04-08-2004 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trashline   Click Here to Email trashline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well i didnt get it out yet it started to rain so i wasnt all about that getting wet thing so tomorrow is an early day

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1966 mustang coupe
200ci 3 speed tranny
msd 6a ignition, blaster 2 coil, 2 inch exhaust to a glass pac, stock rear,I have the single out header not on yet though,and i have the parts for the cold air intake (homemade).
white w/ black interior
will eventully have (after years of great prosperity) a 67-69 fastbask (aka dream car)

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posted 04-09-2004 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trashline   Click Here to Email trashline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey guys i finally got it out. do i need to leave the felx plate on there for a manual trans or can it come off?

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1966 mustang coupe
200ci 3 speed tranny
msd 6a ignition, blaster 2 coil, 2 inch exhaust to a glass pac, stock rear,I have the single out header not on yet though,and i have the parts for the cold air intake (homemade).
white w/ black interior
will eventully have (after years of great prosperity) a 67-69 fastbask (aka dream car)

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Tom G
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posted 04-09-2004 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom G   Click Here to Email Tom G     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by trashline:
hey guys i finally got it out. do i need to leave the felx plate on there for a manual trans or can it come off?


Pull the flex plate you won't be using it on a manual trans. You may want to strat looking for a flywheel for the manual trans.

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67 Mustang F/B 302 GT-40X FMS Crate engine T5, cable clutch conversion Flowmasters X Pipe 3.89 equa loc 9". Clearwater Aqua GT Clone Vintage wheel works 16x8 40 series 225 front 255/50 rear drag radials 13.39 on 205/70/14 BFG @104 mph (New times when better weather gets here! 03 Focus ZX3 BORLA exhaust Wings West spoiler (Arrest ME RED)

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posted 04-09-2004 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trashline   Click Here to Email trashline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the trans flywheel i have in my three speed wont work? all im doing is swapping from a 66 block to a 68 block

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1966 mustang coupe
200ci 3 speed tranny
msd 6a ignition, blaster 2 coil, 2 inch exhaust to a glass pac, stock rear,I have the single out header not on yet though,and i have the parts for the cold air intake (homemade).
white w/ black interior
will eventully have (after years of great prosperity) a 67-69 fastbask (aka dream car)

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posted 04-09-2004 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom G   Click Here to Email Tom G     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by trashline:
the trans flywheel i have in my three speed wont work? all im doing is swapping from a 66 block to a 68 block



Should work OK make sure you put a pilot bushing or bearing in the end of the crank
Tom

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67 Mustang F/B 302 GT-40X FMS Crate engine T5, cable clutch conversion Flowmasters X Pipe 3.89 equa loc 9". Clearwater Aqua GT Clone Vintage wheel works 16x8 40 series 225 front 255/50 rear drag radials 13.39 on 205/70/14 BFG @104 mph (New times when better weather gets here! 03 Focus ZX3 BORLA exhaust Wings West spoiler (Arrest ME RED)

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posted 04-09-2004 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whiteknight289   Click Here to Email whiteknight289     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trashline,
You said you are removing a 2 speed trans and installing a 3 speed. Just a hunch here, but are you referring to two automatic transmissions?

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66 GT coupe A code, Silver Frost
65 coupe modified - the White Knight
66 convert being restored
95 GT convertible/Cobra clone - black with white leather

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posted 04-10-2004 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trashline   Click Here to Email trashline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no i have the 68 motor with the 2 speed auto in my yard and im driving with the old motor and three speed manual. im just replacing the clutch and components and switching motor

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1966 mustang coupe
200ci 3 speed tranny
msd 6a ignition, blaster 2 coil, 2 inch exhaust to a glass pac, stock rear,I have the single out header not on yet though,and i have the parts for the cold air intake (homemade).
white w/ black interior
will eventully have (after years of great prosperity) a 67-69 fastbask (aka dream car)

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posted 04-10-2004 06:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whiteknight289   Click Here to Email whiteknight289     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, if you've pulled the two engines and transmissions apart you should see that the 3 speed manual trans flywheel is bolted to the crankshaft directly. The c4 automatic (with is also 3 speeds by the way) has the teeth of the ring gear on the torque converter, which is then bolted to the engine via the flexplate. You will need to swap over all the parts, including the spacer plate that goes between the engine block and bellhousing. In addition, like posted above, you will need to add a pilot bushing to the end of your crankshaft to support the front of the manual trans.

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MCA Certified Judge, 1965-1966
66 GT coupe A code, Silver Frost
65 coupe modified - the White Knight
66 convert being restored
95 GT convertible/Cobra clone - black with white leather

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posted 04-10-2004 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trashline   Click Here to Email trashline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this trans isnt a c4. it is a two speed falcon tranny. everything should swap fine. all im doing to changing the blocks. take whats off the block i have in the car now and put it on the block thats going in the car. and if anything is bad then it will be repalced right?

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1966 mustang coupe
200ci 3 speed tranny
msd 6a ignition, blaster 2 coil, 2 inch exhaust to a glass pac, stock rear,I have the single out header not on yet though,and i have the parts for the cold air intake (homemade).
white w/ black interior
will eventully have (after years of great prosperity) a 67-69 fastbask (aka dream car)

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