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adragon8u
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From: Oceano, Ca. member# 2895
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 02-12-2004 04:49 PM
   
I'm going to be putting new carpet in the 66 soon and am going to be needing the chrome screws that are used in attaching it to the floor board. My car came completley bare so I was wondering if anyone out there can tell me how many screws do I need(I can hear the jokes flying now  ). I want to make sure I have what needed because I hate having to stop in the middle of a job to go get some silly part I didn't have. Any tips would be appreciated also.
tia.------------------
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bud4660
Gearhead Posts: 509
From: Mesquite, Tx. M&M #2925
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 02-12-2004 05:27 PM
Are the 66 different then the 67's? The sill plates and kick panels were the only place I had that was screwed down. The carpet just layed on the floor. The seats bolt down on it. I used spray glue in the back because of the 24" wide wheel tubs. That worked real good.
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johnmustang
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From: British Columbia , Canada
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 02-12-2004 05:36 PM
All you will pretty much need is screws for the sill plates and the kick panels. Your rear interior panels have there own screws and some times the carpet will partially tuck in behind there, but no extra screws needed. Before you lay down your carpet you may want to consider painting as much of your exposed metal as you can with Por-15. If you do not want to use Por-15 (kind of expensive, but works great) just get what ever rust-inhibiting paint you can afford and paint away. Be very careful of your cuts as you will only get one good chance at it. Measure twice and when you have it right measure one more time to be sure, after all you measuring and cutting is done lay it out in the sunshine or any other place to really heat it up then install it. this is how I did my fastback and it worked great and fit like a glove. Good luck------------------
JOHN
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Ken
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From: Prospect, Ct. M&M Member No. 31 MCA Member 49299
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posted 02-12-2004 05:36 PM
Please refer all carpet questions to Alex....  ------------------
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adragon8u
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From: Oceano, Ca. member# 2895
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posted 02-12-2004 05:38 PM
I know that when I gutted a 65 and went to remove the old rotted out carpet that there were screws holding it in at places. I'll be getting the 80/20 carpet which I assume means that it's a two piece set that meet somewhere under the seats?
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adragon8u
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posted 02-12-2004 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by adragon8u:
I know that when I gutted a 65 and went to remove the old rotted out carpet that there were screws holding it in at places. I'll be getting the 80/20 carpet which I assume means that it's a two piece set that meet somewhere under the seats?
as for rust inhibitor, I've been using undercoating. is that ok? I kinda thought that it would also work as a sound damper. Am I off base here?Sorry, I kinda messed up my edit. [This message has been edited by adragon8u (edited 02-12-2004).]
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 02-12-2004 05:45 PM
No screws needed but I used alittle spray glue here and there.------------------
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johnmustang
Gearhead Posts: 5818
From: British Columbia , Canada
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 02-12-2004 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by Fastymz:
No screws needed but I used alittle spray glue here and there.
Not to contradict you Scoop, but using glue is very messy, stinky and can really mess you up if it is done wrong or you need to remove the carpet again. What I did was use a good 3M double sided tape and it works great. ------------------
JOHN
65 FASTBACK 2+2.....14.44 @ 107mph 1/4
87 TAURUS WAGON
03 F150 XLT SUPER CREW 4X4 SHORT BOX
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adragon8u
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posted 02-12-2004 05:50 PM
Thanks again guys. just one more if I may. if this is a 2 piece carpet that meets under the seats. does the front overlap the back? or vice versa. I'd "assume it's the former as opposed to the latter but want to be sure the first time.------------------
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adragon8u
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posted 02-12-2004 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by adragon8u:
Thanks again guys. just one more if I may. if this is a 2 piece carpet that meets under the seats. does the front overlap the back? or vice versa. I'd "assume it's the former as opposed to the latter but want to be sure the first time.
I like the double sided tape idea John, my question would be how well it held up over time and not let the carpet shift. **** it, I did it again. ------------------
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 02-12-2004 06:32 PM
quote:
Originally posted by johnmustang:
Not to contradict you Scoop, but using glue is very messy, stinky and can really mess you up if it is done wrong or you need to remove the carpet again. What I did was use a good 3M double sided tape and it works great.
Yeah good point, but I've used the spray glue for sometime now. It's real easy to use but can be real messy. I just used alittle near the firewall area it wasn't needed anywhere else. I put down some paint on product like the POR15 and then some insulation. ------------------
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bill haab
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From: south bend in.
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 02-12-2004 07:50 PM
I'm a commerical carpet installer. I'm going to put custom job in mine. I will be cuting in mustang the print in my floor pans. I will be using contact cement. Also double glue down. Thats when you put a rubber pad down first. Then carpet on top.
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Ken
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From: Prospect, Ct. M&M Member No. 31 MCA Member 49299
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 02-12-2004 08:19 PM
I'm really amazed that so many people have used any kind of adhesive to hold the carpeting in place  . I never used any.....just the sill plate & screws, seat bolts, seatbelt bolts, kick panels, etc. hold everything in place just fine  !!! Its been three years now and my carpet hasn't gone anywhere.------------------
What makes men chase women they have no intention of marrying?
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1965 Springtime Yellow Coupe - 302GT40-4spd
Edlebrock RPM Air Gap - 670cfm Holley Street Avenger
Roller Cam - Duration 282'/282' @ 050 220'/220' lift 0.512
and much, MUCH MORE !!!
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83j20
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posted 02-12-2004 08:57 PM
Just got in the new carpet for the '66. Anyone have experience with Auto Custom Carpet products?
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Fastymz
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posted 02-12-2004 08:58 PM
Thats the brand I used ------------------
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Ken
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From: Prospect, Ct. M&M Member No. 31 MCA Member 49299
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 02-12-2004 09:19 PM
quote:
Originally posted by 83j20:
Just got in the new carpet for the '66. Anyone have experience with Auto Custom Carpet products?
Yes sir, see my post above . ------------------
What makes men chase women they have no intention of marrying?
The same urge that makes dogs chase cars they have no intention of driving. Ken
1965 Springtime Yellow Coupe - 302GT40-4spd
Edlebrock RPM Air Gap - 670cfm Holley Street Avenger
Roller Cam - Duration 282'/282' @ 050 220'/220' lift 0.512
and much, MUCH MORE !!!
My 1965 (aka RUMBLE BEE) Photo Page
1995 5.0 Laser Red - 34000 original miles - 5spd - Coupe
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mellowyellow
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From: So. Fl.
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 02-12-2004 09:57 PM
No glue! Aside from the sill plates there are no screws except one or two under each seat. The outer screw is near the outer seat track. They serve to keep the carpet together to enable the seats to be easily installed. They hold the carpet down so that the seats can be easily bolted down. The screws are similar to the flat ones that hold the stainless over the windows. Put the carpet in the sun for an hour before installing. If the old carpet has been in car a long time, get the old underlayment out and clean up floor, looking for rust, etc. New underlayment should be put down. The last couple cars have done, used heavy duty foil under tow board and tunnel beneath the underlay. It will help some to keep out tranny heat. On the POS 66 cv am doing will also put foil behind the firewall blanket.
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adragon8u
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posted 02-12-2004 10:18 PM
the foil sounds like a good idea also. That's why I ask first, I get all the different ideas and approaches and see which work for me.
So now I have to decide.. glue? or no glue?
unless someone says something negative about the foil, I'm going to use it. I assume this is a special foil? sorry if the questions are dumb.------------------
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bill haab
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From: south bend in.
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 02-13-2004 12:18 AM
I have glued many car carpets in. But I have been installing carpet for 22 years. So I have all the tricks of the trade. So I can replace it in a hour. on the tranny tunnel I use contact cement on the back of the carpet & on the tunnel. let dry for 30 min.Then stick it on and trim at the tunnel & the floor pans meet.then I put floor pans in seperate. But I think you should buy a kit for yours. Foil will work. I just use 40 oz. carpet for heat.Thick stuff. I have done alot of show cars. If i can draw it I can put it in the carpet.
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Jeff
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From: Moore, OK USA
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 02-13-2004 02:58 PM
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Originally posted by adragon8u:
Thanks again guys. just one more if I may. if this is a 2 piece carpet that meets under the seats. does the front overlap the back? or vice versa. I'd "assume it's the former as opposed to the latter but want to be sure the first time.
Carpet screws were used on my '65 fastback. When I replaced the carpets, I also used these screws (new ones). They are carpet screws and I got them at my local Mustang parts store. Here's what I did: a. Used '66 molded carpets since these have molded edges whereas early '65 carpets do not.
b. Prepared floors to accept carpets and installed new jute sound deadeners. With seats removed, I fitted the rear carpet. Rocker panels were swabbed with contact cement and back sides of carpet were similarly swabbed and allowed to become tacky. No cement was used on central area of carpet. The carpet was fitted and pressed down. Boards and "C" clamps were used to compress carpet edges onto interior rocker panels. Cement was allowed to set. Carpet screws were used underneath rear seat as carpet edge rolled under rear seat. This was consistent with how they were originally used. A nail was used to locate seat belt holes and then then cut with Xacto knife in "X" pattern where the seat belt bolt was to penetrate carpet. Seat belts were installed. Vertical areas of fastback rear panels were patched in using contact cement on both vertical and carpet back. Contact cement was allowed to nearly dry then the piece was fitted. Edges were trimmed with carpet knife. Front was fitted similarly with contact cement only on rocker panels. Seats were reinstalled. Carpet continues to look as perfect today as when it was installed.
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bibbs68
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posted 02-13-2004 04:37 PM
Dont know if they are the same scenario buy my '68 has 4 screws where the front half meets the back (front overlaps the back). There are two screws on the pass side and two in the drvr side.------------------
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