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trashline
Gearhead Posts: 1351
From: Levittown, Pa
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 02-10-2004 06:36 PM
   
this would be for a 200 ci application. take an defroster duct plastic piece on a 65 66 mustang and mount it to the fire wall. well first you must drill a hole in the fire wall for air access and then mount it. then use flexable tubing for air ducts and use a piece just long enough to connect the air cleaner to the fire wall. slip the tubing over the air cleaner and the defroster duct and fasten with wire ties. will the air be able to get through the tubing enough when ideling. ------------------
1966 mustang coupe
200ci 3 speed tranny
msd 6a ignition, blaster 2 coil, 2 inch exhaust to a glass pac, stock rear, single out header, cold air intake (homemade).
white w/ black interior
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MidLifCrisis
Gearhead Posts: 466
From: Frederick County, MD
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 02-10-2004 10:52 PM
I am not familiar with 65-66, but 67-68 have two slots in radiator suppport in front of battery. If 65-66 is similar, relocate battery to trunk, cut piece out between slots for one large opening, fabricate a collector box with a round collar to attach round duct. I don't think heater tubing would be large enough, and would offer resistance due to the fact that it is not that smooth inside. Find a larger, smoother flex (like the aluminum flex they attatch to air filter snokels for the choke) I think that would work better. Good luck. [This message has been edited by MidLifCrisis (edited 02-12-2004).]
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trashline
Gearhead Posts: 1351
From: Levittown, Pa
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 02-10-2004 10:58 PM
well i was going to use air cleaner duct from like abc auto for air cleaners. a collecter box you mean somthing like the new cars have and maybe put a filter in it or somthing thats not a bad idea either
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Mooney
Gearhead Posts: 1580
From: Marietta, Ga
Registered: Oct 2003
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posted 02-10-2004 11:29 PM
You've probably seen this setup, I think I've seen you over at the fordsix forum, but here's the link anyway to Mustang_Geezers Ram Air setup. He did a good job, has a nice look to it.
http://www.inlinepages.com/~inlinefever/ram_air.html
The problem you're still going to be faced with though is that the log intake is still so restrictive.
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65coupei6
Gearhead Posts: 451
From: S.F., CA
Registered: May 2000
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posted 02-11-2004 12:14 AM
You can try Mustang Geezer's or there might still be some pics of my old setup on my webpage.------------------
Marco S.
[email protected]
Ford Inline Performance
MustangIndex-The Classic Mustang Search Engine & Web Directory
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mustangboy
Gearhead Posts: 774
From: Ont, Canada
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 02-11-2004 12:33 AM
I wouldn't go through the firewall into the cowl vent area.I've heard of guys doing this and you get fumes in the interior of the car through the heater and defroster vents.------------------
1968 mustang j-code sprint.13.69@101 306cu.in, stock ported heads,weiand exellerator,650 holley DP,hedman hedders,comp 292 Magnum cam,4-speed,8 inch 4.11 detroit locker http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/MembersPics/mustangboy.html
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Fastback68
Gearhead Posts: 3093
From: Sucat, Paranaque, Philippines
Registered: Jul 99
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posted 02-11-2004 04:22 AM
I don't see how mounting anything on the firewall will create a "ram" effect. The air intake has to be outside the car, facing forward, to benefit from the car's forward movement forcing air in.
I've thought about running the flexible tube down below the battery mount and spreading out into a wider, thinner piece just below the valence panel.
Also, MidLifCrisis, are you confusing the firewall with the radiator support?
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trashline
Gearhead Posts: 1351
From: Levittown, Pa
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 02-11-2004 09:09 AM
i think he means the radiator support not firewall------------------
1966 mustang coupe
200ci 3 speed tranny
msd 6a ignition, blaster 2 coil, 2 inch exhaust to a glass pac, stock rear, single out header, cold air intake (homemade).
white w/ black interior
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trashline
Gearhead Posts: 1351
From: Levittown, Pa
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 02-11-2004 06:46 PM
im still not sure if the air will be ok when sitting at a light------------------
1966 mustang coupe
200ci 3 speed tranny
msd 6a ignition, blaster 2 coil, 2 inch exhaust to a glass pac, stock rear, single out header, cold air intake (homemade).
white w/ black interior
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mustangboy
Gearhead Posts: 774
From: Ont, Canada
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 02-12-2004 12:37 AM
Fastback68 have you ever heard of "cowl induction"?  ------------------
1968 mustang j-code sprint.13.69@101 306cu.in, stock ported heads,weiand exellerator,650 holley DP,hedman hedders,comp 292 Magnum cam,4-speed,8 inch 4.11 detroit locker http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/MembersPics/mustangboy.html
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Fastback68
Gearhead Posts: 3093
From: Sucat, Paranaque, Philippines
Registered: Jul 99
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posted 02-12-2004 06:22 AM
OK, I get the idea! Cut a hole in your firewall so air is forced by the windshield into the cowl vents and into the air intake!
Yikes! I think the setup at that link above is MUCH better.
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trashline
Gearhead Posts: 1351
From: Levittown, Pa
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 02-12-2004 10:16 AM
il agree with ya on that one lol------------------
1966 mustang coupe
200ci 3 speed tranny
msd 6a ignition, blaster 2 coil, 2 inch exhaust to a glass pac, stock rear, single out header, cold air intake (homemade).
white w/ black interior
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trashline
Gearhead Posts: 1351
From: Levittown, Pa
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 02-12-2004 10:30 AM
well i went with what i posted first. for the three inch tube i was surprised what it did but if i ever work a six then i will go with that mustang dual ram air effect posted up top. im just looking for cheap performance upgrades for when i put my new motor in the car which will be another 200 ci (go sixes)------------------
1966 mustang coupe
200ci 3 speed tranny
msd 6a ignition, blaster 2 coil, 2 inch exhaust to a glass pac, stock rear, single out header, cold air intake (homemade).
white w/ black interior
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MidLifCrisis
Gearhead Posts: 466
From: Frederick County, MD
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 02-12-2004 08:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Fastback68:
I don't see how mounting anything on the firewall will create a "ram" effect. The air intake has to be outside the car, facing forward, to benefit from the car's forward movement forcing air in.
I've thought about running the flexible tube down below the battery mount and spreading out into a wider, thinner piece just below the valence panel.
Also, MidLifCrisis, are you confusing the firewall with the radiator support?
Ooops... senior moment. YES, I meant the radiator support. Also, all the Nascar racecars duct the air cleaners through the firewall to draw air from the cowl area. That's where cowl induction hoods get their air, due to a high pressure area at the base of the windshield at speed. Also, I think it's March that offers a ram air system for the late models that uses a long thin scoop at the bottom of the air dam to draw air into the filter box. Excellent source of air. Charlie
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MidLifCrisis
Gearhead Posts: 466
From: Frederick County, MD
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 02-12-2004 08:56 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Mooney:
You've probably seen this setup, I think I've seen you over at the fordsix forum, but here's the link anyway to Mustang_Geezers Ram Air setup. He did a good job, has a nice look to it.
http://www.inlinepages.com/~inlinefever/ram_air.htmlJust linked the web-site. This is along the lines of what I was suggesting. Very clean install. Nice job. Charlie
The problem you're still going to be faced with though is that the log intake is still so restrictive.
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trashline
Gearhead Posts: 1351
From: Levittown, Pa
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 02-12-2004 09:51 PM
well the motor im gettin gdoes have an 80s year head on it so it should be a little bit better.------------------
1966 mustang coupe
200ci 3 speed tranny
msd 6a ignition, blaster 2 coil, 2 inch exhaust to a glass pac, stock rear, single out header, cold air intake (homemade).
white w/ black interior
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