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trashline
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posted 02-03-2004 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trashline   Click Here to Email trashline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well i thought id go and buy a cowl cover to stop the leaky cowl. that didnt work so i thought it was the window weatherstripping was leaking in which it was but now i find another orfus for water to come through. the wiper hole in the cowl yp i got water coming through there. is there supposed to be maybe a rubber piece or grommet or somthing there if not my 66 coupe will have them lol this just pissed me off when i had spent all this money and the top of my shoe is still wet.

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adragon8u
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posted 02-03-2004 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for adragon8u   Click Here to Email adragon8u     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just spent a weekend repairing the cowl leak in my 66 coupe(see "no more leaks") I'm still sore from it, but it can be done. There is also a section describing what I did on my web page. Good luck and let us know what happens.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 02-03-2004 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by trashline:
is there supposed to be maybe a rubber piece or grommet or somthing there

Yes, there's supposed to be a gasket-like seal where the wiper shafts go through the cowl.

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trashline
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posted 02-03-2004 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trashline   Click Here to Email trashline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
on the outside or inside bc i was just looking through a catalog i have and i found a gasket like triangle but i need somthing to stop the water from the outside

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 02-03-2004 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's it. On an early Mustang, it goes in from under the dash. You remove the wiper arms, unbolt the wiper shaft stands, and they drop into the car and you replace those gaskets from under the dash.

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'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
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bud4660
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posted 02-03-2004 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bud4660   Click Here to Email bud4660     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But wouldnt that still let water collect in the cowl area?? I mean the seal would stop water from leaking down the wiper shaft. But wouldnt it get under the cowl grille piece and sit there?? I have been trying to figure out how to seal mine up water tite.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 02-03-2004 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On the older Mustangs the wiper transmission is inside the passenger compartment, the gasket seals water from coming in the under dash area. Water still enters the cowl area, that's what it's designed for. The water enters the cowl area, and flows down to the sides and drains behind the rear of the fender.

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'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
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adragon8u
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posted 02-03-2004 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for adragon8u   Click Here to Email adragon8u     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bud4660:
I have been trying to figure out how to seal mine up water tite.



been there, tried that. It's a waste of time and energy and you wouldn't be happy. If it's not leaking now, just remove your fenders and clear the drains so that water doesn't sit. While you have the fenders off and have access to the drains you can try to spray some por15 in there with a wand to prevent future problems.
Then use your cowl cover to keep leaves out when parked under trees. If you are still unhappy with the cowl cover and want to get rid of it, let me know.

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bifs66
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posted 02-06-2004 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bifs66   Click Here to Email bifs66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The open space around the wiper shafts where they poke through the outer cowl will allow water to enter the cowl area. It's the same chamber space that's covered by the slotted vents in front of the windshield. That's why a cowl cover alone will not prevent water from entering the cowl; particularly if driving in the rain. Those wiper shaft holes in the outer cowl are something that has to be carefully lined up when re-welding the cowl back on after the "big" repair job.

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