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trashline
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posted 01-14-2004 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trashline   Click Here to Email trashline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hello everybody by the time i get down with all my probs my car will be in pefect running order. ok heres the next prob. when i bought the car the kid told me that it would always rattle when i let the clutch out in first gear. he said it is because the clutch in the car is an over sized ceramic racing clutch and pressure plate. does that sound kosher? hell no. it drove and i figured id fix it later . i have to give it alot of gas just so the entire car doesnt shake. and when im in second gear and just let the clutch out it does it alittle bit. so what do you think? i was just going to go out and replace everything in the bellhousing but thanks to this great site solving every problem i have i figured id ask thanks . brian

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posted 01-14-2004 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Clutch chatter is most often caused by a glazed fly wheel or a scored pressure plate.

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posted 01-14-2004 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trashline   Click Here to Email trashline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
alex ok so now when i drop the tranny and find everything a mess lol jk. so now for some reason i dont belive a word this kid says do you think i should replace everything or wait and see when i drop the tranny before i order everything?
thanks Brian

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posted 01-14-2004 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68F100   Click Here to Email 68F100     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would think you would want to see what's up before buying everything new.

I don't know jack about transmissions, though. Can that glaze be broken and the parts reused, or do you just replace the parts?

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posted 01-14-2004 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trashline   Click Here to Email trashline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well im not sure whats in there. its a 200ci 3 speed so i can drop it and install it myself only weighs 40 lbs or somthing like that but the kid that sold me the car insisted it was a ceramic racing clutch. if this helps he said he went through several trannys i dont know if he beats the hell out of them or doesnt know what hes doing but he blamed it on this super clutch. i think im just gonna pull it off and see what i got .

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posted 01-14-2004 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amartin725     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have a 6-cyl correct? DO you have a 3-bolt starter? If so, those setups are more prone to chatter than other systems. The clutch disk is rather small and the 3-finger pressure plates these days are all rebuilts, and I know rebuilders who refuse to rebuild that particular pressure plate anymore because they are finicky.

However, there are other things to look at. It is a complete mechanical linkage from the clutch pedal all the way to the clutch fork. Any slop in the system can cause a chatter which gets amplified through all the parts. Start at the clutch pedal and work your way through the system. Chances are you'll find right away that your clutch pedal bushings are shot as well as your z-bar pivot bushings.

ceramic racing clutch....sounds like BS.

Then again, if you don't have a 6 , disregard most of this, but still check out the linkages.

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posted 01-14-2004 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trashline   Click Here to Email trashline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
really i didnt know the linkage can cause that. i guess it being loose allows the clutch pressure plate to move around right? and correct i have a 6 cyl its a 200

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posted 01-15-2004 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trashline   Click Here to Email trashline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so with the replacement of the clutch system im guessing i should replace all of the z bar parts too

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posted 01-15-2004 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would not plan on replacing ANYTHING until you take it all apart and have a look at EVERYTHING.
Z bars rarely wear out. Their bushings do.

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posted 01-15-2004 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trashline   Click Here to Email trashline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok thanks for all the help again tomorrow ive decided to drop my car off to get the windows professionally done they will use my stuff. then with the capability of a full tool box and garage at my fire house i will drop my tranny probably sunday.

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