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Pierre
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posted 01-14-2004 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre   Click Here to Email Pierre     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
3000 miles into my new engine, and getting ready to check valve lash on my 270S. Compcam gives 0.022, engine hot, can I go a little tighter than that (I don't exceed 6500 RPM)? ...as it seems like a big gap to me

If yes, by how much ?

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 01-14-2004 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd be inclined to trust the engineer's recommendations. They are the ones that know the metallurgy and did the math. JMHO

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Moneymaker
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posted 01-14-2004 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can safely go +- .005 easily.
.005 tighter will give you smoe more top end power.
.005 looser will give you more bottom end.


Comp by design has a tendancy to recomend tighter lashes overall.
Strange but true.

The recomended lash on MM's .800+ lift cam is .024 and .026
We have found that it prefers .034

I usually set up 270S's at .030 accross. Hint, hint, to 270S users

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posted 01-14-2004 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
I usually set up 270S's at .030 accross. Hint, hint, to 270S users


Would a 282S respond with similar results?

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posted 01-14-2004 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In your case I would tighten them up .005.

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posted 01-14-2004 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Thank you

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Pierre
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posted 01-15-2004 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre   Click Here to Email Pierre     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
You can safely go +- .005 easily.
.005 tighter will give you smoe more top end power.
.005 looser will give you more bottom end.


Comp [b]by design
has a tendancy to recomend tighter lashes overall.
Strange but true.

The recomended lash on MM's .800+ lift cam is .024 and .026
We have found that it prefers .034

I usually set up 270S's at .030 accross. Hint, hint, to 270S users

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I sure did not expect that answer but thinking about it, it makes a lot of sense
Will go .030"
Thanks again

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Pierre
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posted 01-15-2004 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre   Click Here to Email Pierre     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by V8 Thumper:
Would a 282S respond with similar results?


Did you swap the 270S ? .....You just couldn't help it right !

Tell me how it runs, is it streetable (idle, vaccum,.....) as I am getting the same itch

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V8 Thumper
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posted 01-15-2004 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yea

I swapped cams a few months ago. It changed the motor's character a bunch

It sofened the low-end grunt a bit (which is good, helps to keep from blowing the tires off the wheels ). From 3k and up, HOLD ON

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posted 01-15-2004 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With a four speed and non-power brakes, it is streetable. Way too much for a stock converter and tall gears however. Fuel milage really sucks ... small price to pay


It'd probably get much better fuel economy if I could keep my right foot off of the floor

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Pierre
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posted 01-15-2004 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre   Click Here to Email Pierre     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by V8 Thumper:
With a four speed and non-power brakes, it is streetable. Way too much for a stock converter and tall gears however. Fuel milage really sucks ... small price to pay


It'd probably get much better fuel economy if I could keep my right foot off of the floor



Yeah that's the thing ! I am already down to 14-15 mpg (at best) with the 270S (driving reallllly nice)! Cost me a quarter $ per mile already to run this thing .....I really need another mustang that's what I should do: one for adrenaline rush and one for long hall trips

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posted 01-15-2004 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pierre:

14-15 mpg (at best)


I don't get half that

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Pierre
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posted 01-15-2004 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre   Click Here to Email Pierre     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by V8 Thumper:

I don't get half that



I bet Texaco's stock goes up anytime you open your garage door

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n2oMike
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posted 01-15-2004 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for n2oMike   Click Here to Email n2oMike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always ran 0.017" intake and 0.020" exhaust on Comp Magnum solids.

The first one had a 270S intake and 282S exhaust lobe. The cam used in my sig below was the 282S intake lobe and the 294S exhaust.

Tighter lash makes a lot less noise, and is easier on the rocker arm rollers and valve tips.

Good Luck!

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